From davids@imsa.edu Thu Jun 20 18:08:08 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g5KM87Qi016599 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 18:08:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id RAA24846 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 17:08:07 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA24842 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 17:08:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g5KM87s27783 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 17:08:07 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 17:08:07 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Subject: Spring 1901, Italy to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 247 Lines: 7 Greetings noble Frank from the Duce of Italy. It is my will that we should learn to coexist beside one another as neighbors, and if all goes well between us friends. Please respond freely if you would discuss matters of state. Duce Fortunata From dwarf@imsa.edu Fri Jun 21 09:53:14 2002 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 09:53:14 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Spring 1901, France to Italy Message-ID: <20020621135314.GA6174@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 652 Lines: 14 > Greetings noble Frank from the Duce of Italy. It is my will that we > should learn to coexist beside one another as neighbors, and if all goes > well between us friends. Please respond freely if you would discuss > matters of state. Greetings Duce. The Republic of France extends its regards; we are in agreement that peace is the better strategy between us. To that end, we propose a zone of neutrality in the Piedmont, to which neither of us will send our forces of military. You will agree to this, yes? We wish you the best of luck in the Greece. The greedy Emperor will surely make difficulty in your life over that country. -le Premier From davids@imsa.edu Fri Jun 21 08:43:33 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g5LChXQi029167 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 08:43:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id HAA28025 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 07:43:33 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA28021 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 07:43:33 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g5LChW219769 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 07:43:32 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 07:43:32 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Subject: Spring 1901, Russia to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 622 Lines: 13 President Emile Loubet, Greetings from the Russian Empire! We hope that this dispatch finds you and the people of your Republic well. We are writing merely to inquire as to your disposition towards the other nations of our continent; although our peoples are separated physically by many miles, we would like to make sure that separation does not extend to our relationship - at the dawn of the twentieth century, we hope we can find common ground with you on the political future of Europe. Sincerely, Nicholas II, Tsar of Russia From dwarf@imsa.edu Fri Jun 21 10:02:15 2002 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:02:15 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Spring 1901, France to Russia Message-ID: <20020621140215.GB6174@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 1220 Lines: 20 > Greetings from the Russian Empire! We hope that this dispatch > finds you and the people of your Republic well. We are writing merely to > inquire as to your disposition towards the other nations of our continent; > although our peoples are separated physically by many miles, we would like > to make sure that separation does not extend to our relationship - at the > dawn of the twentieth century, we hope we can find common ground with you > on the political future of Europe. Greetings to the Czar. Our disposition with regards to the other great nations of the Europe are good at this time ; the land has much yet to provide us. However, we do see a time in the very near future when all our peoples will feel the lack of ability to expand. It is only natural that our two nations would co-operate to expand our respective resources by uniting against a common enemy. The ties of blood and politics are strong between St. Petersburg and Paris, and we French would be glad to continue that relationship. Please let us know - for the curiosity, of course - what agreement is reached on the disposition of the Scandinavian lands. We wish you the good luck in striking a favorable deal in that quarter. From dpb Fri Jun 21 10:06:19 2002 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:06:19 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Spring 1901, France to England Message-ID: <20020621140619.GC6174@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 272 Lines: 6 Greetings from the government of the Republic of France. We find it necessary to discuss at this time the disposition of Belgium. The large francophone communite there will of course wish to be reunited with the homeland of France. You will agree to this? -le Premier From dpb Fri Jun 21 10:09:55 2002 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:09:55 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Spring 1901, France to Germany Message-ID: <20020621140955.GD6174@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 254 Lines: 6 Greetings to the Kaiser, from the government of the Republic of France ! Our neighbor nations will surely have much to discuss in the future, however at this time we only wish to initiate diplomatic contact. We hope to hear from you soon. -le Premier From dpb Fri Jun 21 10:44:33 2002 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:44:33 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Rule clarification Message-ID: <20020621144433.GA6663@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 298 Lines: 7 Hi, I just wanted to clarify: we can send multiple sets of orders, and you'll take the last one we send, right? -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- "Now we are trying to get unemployment to go up and I think we're going to succeed." --Ronald Reagan From davids@imsa.edu Fri Jun 21 10:48:28 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g5LEmRQi001898 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:48:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11656 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 09:48:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g5LEmRD30563 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 09:48:27 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 09:48:27 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Re: Rule clarification In-Reply-To: <20020621144433.GA6663@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Content-Length: 285 Lines: 12 On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, Don Blaheta wrote: > Hi, I just wanted to clarify: we can send multiple sets of orders, and > you'll take the last one we send, right? > When 10pm on Tuesday comes around, I'll take the most recent set of orders that I have from you. So, in essence. Yes. d From davids@imsa.edu Fri Jun 21 16:29:09 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g5LKT6Qi011070 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 16:29:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id PAA27993 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 15:29:06 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27988 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 15:29:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g5LKT6j08583 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 15:29:06 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 15:29:06 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Subject: Spring 1901, Russia to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Content-Length: 320 Lines: 9 President Loubet, We will indeed let you know if and when any agreement on the partition of Scandinavia is reached. For now, we merely desire to let you know that no such agreement has been negotiated yet. Sincerely, Nicholas II, Tsar of Russia From dpb Sat Jun 22 13:54:37 2002 Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 13:54:37 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Spring 1901 France moves Message-ID: <20020622175437.GB11430@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 290 Lines: 11 Just so I don't forget: A Mar H F Bre -> MAO A Par -> Pic -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- "The buffet table is properly set so that it would form an attractive pattern if viewed by a guest hanging from the chandelier." --Miss Manners From davids@imsa.edu Mon Jun 24 10:03:41 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g5OE3fQi002206 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 10:03:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id JAA31276 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 09:03:39 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA31272 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 09:03:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g5OE3cO15724 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 09:03:38 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 09:03:38 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Subject: Spring 1901, England to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 845 Lines: 19 Salutations to my friend le Premier and the People of France, from Edward King of England! It was with utmost pleasure that I received your recent communique. I am gratified that you are in good health. As you know, there are many things which must be attended to upon assumption of power. These matters have now been put to rest, and I trust you will forgive any delays in correspondence. As King, I look to usher in a new era of peace and prosperity for the people of England. Continued peace with our nearest neighbor is the highest of my desires.England's navy shall soon be in the English Channel on maneuvers. I invite you and your retinue to dine with me aboard my flagship. We may then discuss whether England may be of assistance to you in the low countries, and many other matters of importance. Cordially, Edward VII From dwarf@imsa.edu Mon Jun 24 10:34:46 2002 Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 10:34:46 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Spring 1901, France to England Message-ID: <20020624143446.GA19646@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 362 Lines: 7 The people of France are distressed that your Majesty intends to send an armed navy into the waters so close to our northern coasts. In particular, it is difficult to see this as anything other than an open declaration of war, absent a convincing explanation to the contrary. What sort of << maneuvers >>, exactly, is it that you intend to commit? -le Premier From davids@imsa.edu Thu Jun 20 16:25:03 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g5KKP3Qi014275 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 16:25:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id PAA07530 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 15:25:02 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07526 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 15:25:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g5KKP2q13309 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 15:25:02 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 15:25:02 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Subject: From GM - DIPLOMACY Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 1613 Lines: 33 Thus, I propose the following system. (1) Moves will be due by 10pm (eastern time) on Tuesdays and Fridays. (2) Build orders will be sent ASAP after Fall moves are reported. (3) Correspondence will be routed through my IMSA address (davids@imsa.edu). I will use pine so that no one who checks the list of users will see who I am writing to. I will send the messages to the correct recipients with only my address in the header. I would urge others who may wish to keep their involvement in the game secret to send me messages via pine or similar methods if an IMSA account is to be used. (4) Subject lines of emails should read as follows: Season and year, country of origin "to" recipient country e.g. "Spring 1901, France to Germany" I will do my best to forward the emails in a timely fashion within reasonable hours of the day. (5) Correspondence may be sent to me on the weekends, however, if any player DOES NOT is IS NOT WILLING TO check email on the weekends, I would be willing to hold those messages and send them on Monday morning. Please send me your thoughts on this ASAP. I realize that the Tuesday/Friday timing gives less diplomacy time to one season, but I feel that consistent deadlines will make the game go faster, and everyone was basically in favor of short turns. Once I hear back from everybody and things are set, I will accept the initial diplomacy messages. Your randomly assigned country as determined by writing the names in order and randomly drawing one of the seven colored game pieces from a hat is: FRANCE From dwarf@imsa.edu Thu Jun 20 17:11:27 2002 Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 17:11:27 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Re: From GM - DIPLOMACY Message-ID: <20020620211127.GI2187@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 464 Lines: 16 Quoth David Singleton: > Thus, I propose the following system. "Thus"? Did I miss a first email? > FRANCE Oui! Funny, I seem to end up with France more often than not. Oh well, off I go to set up the board. Whee! Tuesday/Friday is fine by me. Everything seems reasonable. Let me know when first diplomacy starts. -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- If there is no God, who pops up the next Kleenex in the box? From davids@imsa.edu Thu Jun 20 17:36:26 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g5KLaPQi015993 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 17:36:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id QAA20384 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 16:36:25 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA20380 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 16:36:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g5KLaPx23291 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 16:36:25 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 16:36:25 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: From GM - DIPLOMACY In-Reply-To: <20020620211127.GI2187@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Content-Length: 956 Lines: 22 Ok. It seems like no one really minds if weekend correspondence goes on or not. I was simply concerned because some players expressed a desire to not have moves due on weekends, and I was concerned that this represented a lack of access at those times. To cover another question, given that I requested that the To and From Country be included in the Subject, are batch emails permitted. Sure, I'm guessing that it will only be for a short time anyway. Just be ABSOLUTELY SURE that it is clearly marked where the messages to each nation begin and end if they are difference, and whether certain countries are to be excluded or not. If you choose batch mailings, I won't be held responsible for cut&paste errors. Begin sending your diplomacy to this address. Please follow the subject header guidelines, it will make it easier for me. Moves for Spring of 1901 are due Tuesday, June 25th, at 10 pm EASTERN. (That's 9 pm for you Illinois folk). D From davids@imsa.edu Thu Jun 20 17:20:55 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g5KLKsQi015620 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 17:20:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id QAA17720 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 16:20:54 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA17716 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 16:20:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g5KLKsN20921 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 16:20:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 16:20:54 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Re: From GM - DIPLOMACY In-Reply-To: <20020620211127.GI2187@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Content-Length: 323 Lines: 20 > "Thus"? Did I miss a first email? No. I like saying "thus". "thus" See? :) > > FRANCE > > Oui! Funny, I seem to end up with France more often than not. Oh well, > off I go to set up the board. Whee! > > Tuesday/Friday is fine by me. Everything seems reasonable. Let me know > when first diplomacy starts. > From davids@imsa.edu Mon Jun 24 11:13:06 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g5OFD5Qi003853 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 11:13:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id KAA06454 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 10:13:05 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06450 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 10:13:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g5OFD5k23854 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 10:13:05 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 10:13:05 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: From GM - DIPLOMACY In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 1119 Lines: 19 As many of you are no doubt aware, I intend to maintain a website for the duration of this game. Unfortuntely, a map and moves do not fascinating reading make. Because I have too much free time and too many ideas, I have contacted an experienced diplomacy player who is not involved in the game. I approached this person with a proposal that they would write a short summary of each season (think, Headline News for the diplomacy game). This person would not have any access to actual correspondence or identities of players. They would, however, have free reign to make educated guesses on what is going on, who got screwed, point out possible weak areas, etc. This person is very much interested in writing such a column. What I would like from you, the players, is permission for such a person to comment on the game. Please email me back if you think this is a "good idea" or "bad idea". If anyone doesn't like it, it won't be done. A further option is that the column would be restricted to present happenings with no comment on possible future moves. This may be a way to salvage a "bad idea" vote. D From dwarf@imsa.edu Mon Jun 24 11:41:53 2002 Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 11:41:53 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Re: From GM - DIPLOMACY Message-ID: <20020624154153.GD19646@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 2440 Lines: 40 Quoth David Singleton: > As many of you are no doubt aware, I intend to maintain a website for the > duration of this game. Unfortuntely, a map and moves do not fascinating > reading make. Because I have too much free time and too many ideas, I > have contacted an experienced diplomacy player who is not involved in the > game. I approached this person with a proposal that they would write > a short summary of each season (think, Headline News for the diplomacy > game). This person would not have any access to actual correspondence or > identities of players. They would, however, have free reign to make > educated guesses on what is going on, who got screwed, point out possible > weak areas, etc. This person is very much interested in writing such a > column. What I would like from you, the players, is permission for such > a person to comment on the game. Please email me back if you think this > is a "good idea" or "bad idea". If anyone doesn't like it, it won't be > done. A further option is that the column would be restricted to present > happenings with no comment on possible future moves. This may be a way > to salvage a "bad idea" vote. Sure, I'd love to see Mike's commentary! I think that the column in general is a GOOD IDEA, although I'm ambivalent on future moves commentary. It might serve as a levelling influence (cuing in the less experienced players on some strategy thing they might be missing), which may or may not be good. On the other hand, by the time it comes out in the commentary, it's probably too late. :) So, whatever other players say on the future thing, but overall I love the idea. Sort of related: like last time, I've started a Dip journal explaining my thinking on who's with me, who's not, what my long-term strategies are, etc. I intended to post it to =alt.jarf when we're done (or at least when I'm done :) but this might make interesting reading for the site---you might want to encourage other players to do this too, as it would be really fun to see someone planning a backstab two years in advance while the backstabbee still thinks the backstabber is their best friend. ;) -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- If someone is going to make a mistake costly to me, better for it to be an understandably incompetent human like myself than a mysteriously incompetent machine. --J Weizenbaum, Computer Power and Human Reason From davids@imsa.edu Mon Jun 24 13:15:47 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g5OHFkQi006940 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 13:15:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id MAA23587 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:15:46 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23583 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:15:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g5OHFjv06936 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:15:45 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:15:45 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Subject: Spring 1901, Austria to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 227 Lines: 6 While Austria generally holds few interests in common with the Republic, we nonetheless send our gracious greetings in this turbulent time. We look forward to contact and commerce between our great peoples. The Dual Monarch From dwarf@imsa.edu Mon Jun 24 15:37:33 2002 Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 15:37:33 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Spring 1901, France to Austria Message-ID: <20020624193733.GC21254@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 330 Lines: 8 > While Austria generally holds few interests in common with the Republic, > we nonetheless send our gracious greetings in this turbulent time. We > look forward to contact and commerce between our great peoples. The Republic of France returns the cordial greetings of the Dual Monarch. We will remain in contact. -le Premier From davids@imsa.edu Mon Jun 24 15:14:25 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g5OJEPQi009688 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 15:14:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id OAA07641 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 14:14:25 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07632 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 14:14:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g5OJEOg23072 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 14:14:24 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 14:14:24 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Subject: Spring 1901, Italy to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 1231 Lines: 26 Le Premier, Warm greetings from Rome. I am writing you to follow up on your suggestion that we demilitarize my region of Piedmont. I think that you will understand that such an arrangement is more beneficial to you than it is to me, so while I am, in the interest of peace, willing to leave Piedmont ungarisoned, I'd like to suggest that this be part of a larger agreement. I suggest that we extend the principle of demilitarization south and west, keeping the Gulf of Lyon and the Western Med. equally unoccupied. This region would ensure that while your Iberian holdings are unthreatened, my own economic interests in North Africa are secured as well. Since you are asking me to abstain from movements within my own sovreign state, I feel the request is a fair one. After long silence I have finally heard at last from Germany and Austria-Hungary. I find their long silence...disturbing. If you would wish to share any rumors or knowledge of collusion between them or of them with other powers, with me, I would be greatful. I fear we must keep in mind that should they collaborate, it would fall to both of us to bear the brunt of their land forces. I remain your cordial neighbor to the south, Il Duce Fortunata, Italy. From dwarf@imsa.edu Mon Jun 24 15:47:32 2002 Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 15:47:33 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Spring 1901, France to Italy Message-ID: <20020624194732.GD21254@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 1738 Lines: 30 > Warm greetings from Rome. I am writing you to follow up on your > suggestion that we demilitarize my region of Piedmont. I think that you > will understand that such an arrangement is more beneficial to you than > it is to me, so while I am, in the interest of peace, willing to leave > Piedmont ungarisoned, I'd like to suggest that this be part of a larger > agreement. I suggest that we extend the principle of demilitarization > south and west, keeping the Gulf of Lyon and the Western Med. equally > unoccupied. This region would ensure that while your Iberian holdings > are unthreatened, my own economic interests in North Africa are secured > as well. Since you are asking me to abstain from movements within my own > sovreign state, I feel the request is a fair one. This is indeed fair, and the Republic of France agrees to it: a demilitarized zone extending through the Piedmont, the Gulf of Lyons, and the Western Mediterranean Sea. Vive la France, vive l'Italie ! > After long silence I have finally heard at last from Germany and > Austria-Hungary. I find their long silence...disturbing. If you would > wish to share any rumors or knowledge of collusion between them or of > them with other powers, with me, I would be greatful. I fear we must > keep in mind that should they collaborate, it would fall to both of us to > bear the brunt of their land forces. I have as yet no informations on these two powers. I have only just received my first communique from the Dual Monarch this morning, and it was extremely brief - understandable, given our separation, but not helpful. The Kaiser had more verbosity, but not much more to say. We will apprise you of any developments in this situation, however. -le Premier From dpb Mon Jun 24 22:08:08 2002 Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 22:08:08 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Spring 1901, France to Russia Message-ID: <20020625020808.GG21254@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 451 Lines: 10 I've just exchanged words with King Edward, and he brags that he will be sending a fleet into the English Channel - I assume this is merely belligerence, but whether he attacks or merely threatens I am prepared to return the attention. How are your relations with the king? I expect that he has demanded Norway by now, but all Scandinavia so clearly yearns to live under the benevolent hand of Russia. I anxiously await your response. -le Premier From davids@imsa.edu Fri Jun 21 10:20:22 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g5LEKMQi001274 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:20:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id JAA07737 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 09:20:22 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07733 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 09:20:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g5LEKLO27623 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 09:20:21 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 09:20:21 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Subject: Spring 1901, Germany to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 896 Lines: 15 Hello neighbor! I trust you have been well since last we've spoken. Given the turbulent state of the world today, I would humbly suggest that you look towards securing Belgium as soon as possible. German intelligence reports that Brussels is a breeding ground for anti-French terrorists of the worst sort. German interests lie towards Denmark and Holland - both havens for villains working against the Just. Considering the long history between our two powers, would it be too forward to ask for support in Germany's endeavor to secure Holland? I ask only because German intelligence indicates that England has an interest in acquiring a foothold on the continent, and we both know that English colonialism is not welcome upon our shores. Once they land, the English never leave. To that end, I propose that we both vow to keep the English off the continent - they have no business here. From dwarf@imsa.edu Mon Jun 24 22:15:32 2002 Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 22:15:32 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Spring 1901, France to Germany Message-ID: <20020625021532.GH21254@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 1062 Lines: 19 > Considering the long history between our two powers, would it be too > forward to ask for support in Germany's endeavor to secure Holland? I ask > only because German intelligence indicates that England has an interest in > acquiring a foothold on the continent, and we both know that English > colonialism is not welcome upon our shores. Once they land, the English > never leave. To that end, I propose that we both vow to keep the English > off the continent - they have no business here. I understand and agree. The King has already threatened the Republic with naval << maneuvers >> in the English Channel, mere meters away from our great industrial center in Brittany, Brest. We are not pleased. The Republic supports your efforts to achieve Holland, though of course from afar. As to Belgium, while we believe that Belgium rightly belongs as a possession of the Republic, we fear that our movements this autumn will be largely determined by the extent to which the King carries out his threats. We shall however remain in contact. -le Premier From davids@imsa.edu Tue Jun 25 12:27:43 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g5PGRhQi001960 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 12:27:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id LAA05612 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 11:27:43 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05608 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 11:27:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g5PGRgX11263 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 11:27:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 11:27:42 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Subject: Spring 1901, Germany to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 1157 Lines: 20 I wish you the best concerning Spring maneuvers in the English Channel. Both France and England have a vital interest in keeping the Channel secure. If England has already spoken with you concerning occupying the area, I know that you must be very concerned. As difficult as it is to keep the English off the continent once they have landed, it is even more difficult to sink an English navy once it has sailed past the Channel into the Mid-Atlantic. Or, what may be worse, England may decide to hold the Channel forever -- if he sails into the Channel this season, it will be difficult to oust him for years to come. My apologies: I did not mean to linger on this tender subject. Just know that my thoughts are with you concerning the Channel. If you and England stand-off in the Channel this season, I pledge to support your efforts into Belgium whenever your armies can make it to your region of Picardy. I say Picardy, because it is my hope that you will avoid massing your troops in Burgundy. Such a build up, so close to Munich, could only be taken by Germany as a prelude to an attack on our fair city. We pray we shall never see that day. From dwarf@imsa.edu Tue Jun 25 16:16:43 2002 Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 16:16:43 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Spring 1901, France to Germany Message-ID: <20020625201643.GA2024@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 828 Lines: 18 > My apologies: I did not mean to linger on this tender subject. Just know > that my thoughts are with you concerning the Channel. If you and England > stand-off in the Channel this season, I pledge to support your efforts > into Belgium whenever your armies can make it to your region of Picardy. The King has just sent me a message and informs me he will not be invading the Channel just yet - however he asserts that it would be his right to do so. Phaugh. > I say Picardy, because it is my hope that you will avoid massing your > troops in Burgundy. Such a build up, so close to Munich, could only be > taken by Germany as a prelude to an attack on our fair city. We pray we > shall never see that day. Obviously. Burgundy would serve me little use as a military locale ; I had not even considered it. -le Premier From davids@imsa.edu Tue Jun 25 19:02:05 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g5PN25Qi010569 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 19:02:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id SAA05877 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 18:02:04 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA05873 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 18:02:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g5PN24u06543 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 18:02:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 18:02:04 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Subject: DIP Orders Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 49 Lines: 5 Just a reminder to get your orders in soon. D From dwarf@imsa.edu Tue Jun 25 19:15:19 2002 Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 19:15:19 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Re: DIP Orders Message-ID: <20020625231519.GD2573@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 683 Lines: 18 Quoth David Singleton: > Just a reminder to get your orders in soon. I sent them in a few days ago, and they haven't changed. But to repeat: F Bre -> MAO A Par -> Pic A Mar H -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- Iran's position, paraphrased: "We express our condolences to the United States. We support in principle the United States' effort to rid the world of the menace of terrorism against innocent civilians. Unless the U.S. regards us as guilty of terrorism against innocent civilians. In which case, forget that whole 'support' thing. But we still send our condolences. We cool? *tap tap* Is this thing on?" --Mike Peil From davids@imsa.edu Tue Jun 25 19:44:16 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g5PNi6Qi011313 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 19:44:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id SAA10655 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 18:44:05 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA10651 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 18:44:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g5PNi4h12472 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 18:44:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 18:44:04 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Re: DIP Orders In-Reply-To: <20020625231519.GD2573@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Content-Length: 360 Lines: 17 Sorry about that, I was looking through the email I received and missed your's the first time. I found them shortly after I emailed you. Again, I apologize. D > Quoth David Singleton: > > Just a reminder to get your orders in soon. > > I sent them in a few days ago, and they haven't changed. But to repeat: > > F Bre -> MAO > A Par -> Pic > A Mar H > > From davids@imsa.edu Tue Jun 25 16:53:12 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g5PKrBQi008181 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 16:53:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id PAA16950 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 15:53:11 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA16945 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 15:53:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g5PKrBO19622 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 15:53:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 15:53:11 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Subject: Spring 1901, Germany to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 476 Lines: 13 > The King has just sent me a message and informs me he will not be > invading the Channel just yet - however he asserts that it would be his > right to do so. Phaugh. England is becoming saucy. Do you trust that he will stay out of the Channel? Moving your fleet in Brest into the Channel is a bold move, but can also reap many rewards in the future. My own fleet will be in a position to take the North Sea in the Fall, should it have support from another quarter... From dwarf@imsa.edu Wed Jun 26 02:13:04 2002 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 02:13:04 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Fall 1901, France to Germany Message-ID: <20020626061304.GF2573@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 399 Lines: 12 > England is becoming saucy. Do you trust that he will stay out of the > Channel? I didn't, really, but it seems to have worked out well enough. What are your plans? Germany has a... history... of expansionism and empire-making; furthermore, sitting in the heart of Europe, it has access to nearly every major power. In what direction does the Kaiser look? north? south? east? -le Premier From davids@imsa.edu Wed Jun 26 09:35:47 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g5QDZlQi023225 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 09:35:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id IAA04250 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 08:35:46 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA04246 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 08:35:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g5QDZkY03857 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 08:35:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 08:35:46 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Subject: Fall 1901, Germany to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 337 Lines: 6 I believe that every country needs friends, but that every country needs enemies as well. No power can get anywhere unless they have an ally to help them and a direction to move. How does France feel about working with Germany? We would need to strike quickly, and with force, and the planning for next year would need to begin now. From dwarf@imsa.edu Wed Jun 26 10:22:37 2002 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 10:22:37 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Fall 1901, France to Germany Message-ID: <20020626142237.GA19827@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 926 Lines: 18 > I believe that every country needs friends, but that every country needs > enemies as well. No power can get anywhere unless they have an ally to > help them and a direction to move. How does France feel about working > with Germany? We would need to strike quickly, and with force, and the > planning for next year would need to begin now. Would you be willing to support me into Belgium this season? We can pretty safely assume that the King will try to move his North Sea fleet into Belgium ; we had thought to merely prevent his forces from occupying, or perhaps even sit tight so as not to tip our hand. But of course controlling Belgium would be preferable - a mutual support agreement here between our great nations would give us a solid, stable border to withstand attack from the north. If this plan is in accord with your intents for the low countries, we can begin to discuss future strategy. -le Premier From dpb Wed Jun 26 10:31:23 2002 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 10:31:24 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Fall 1901, France moves Message-ID: <20020626143123.GB19827@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 498 Lines: 15 My moves this round will almost certainly be A Mar -> Spa F MAO -> Por A Pic -> Bel No surprises there, and our Swiss commentator will give me another "textbook" grade, I suppose. I'll be sure to let you know if I change my mind. :) -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule---and both commonly succeed, and are right. --H. L. Mencken From davids@imsa.edu Tue Jun 25 11:04:10 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g5PF49Qi029563 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 11:04:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id KAA25551 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 10:04:09 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25547 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 10:04:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g5PF49132635 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 10:04:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 10:04:09 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Subject: Spring 1901, England to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 585 Lines: 15 Premier, Your response to my offer of hospitality and assistance was most surprising. Rest assured that hostility between our two nations is the last thing England desires. Only by cooperating can we hope to prosper against our common enemies. As a show of good faith, I shall conduct our training maneuvers elsewhere. Do not forget that the waters of the Channel are English by treaty, and that our peaceful conduct upon them is not France's concern. I look forward to your reply, and am especially eager to discover your thoughts on the developing German situation. -Edward VII From dwarf@imsa.edu Wed Jun 26 11:27:16 2002 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 11:27:16 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Fall 1901, France to England Message-ID: <20020626152716.GC19827@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 1142 Lines: 24 > Your response to my offer of hospitality and assistance was most > surprising. Rest assured that hostility between our two nations is the > last thing England desires. Only by cooperating can we hope to prosper > against our common enemies. > > As a show of good faith, I shall conduct our training maneuvers elsewhere. I apologize on behalf of the Republic for misinterpreting your missive. While you do indeed have the technical right to be in the Channel, our industrial west becomes extremely edgy with foreign fleets looming so close. As you can see, my defense advisers pushed to move some infantry north in case we would need to defend our coastline ; these happily have proven unnecessary. We appreciate your discretion and delicacy in this regard. > I look forward to your reply, and am especially eager to discover your > thoughts on the developing German situation. Is there a situation ? The invasion of Denmark was certainly predictable, and the Kaiser has now set himself up to support the forthcoming invasion of the Netherlands. It would appear that he doesn't trust you not to try to beat him to it. -le Premier From davids@imsa.edu Wed Jun 26 15:55:25 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g5QJtMQi007031 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 15:55:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id OAA04191 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 14:55:16 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04187 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 14:55:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g5QJtG324128 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 14:55:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 14:55:16 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Subject: Fall 1901, Germany to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 383 Lines: 8 The English Fleet in the North Sea can attempt to block us in either Belgium or Holland. As I can only support one of these, I chose to support Germany into Holland. After all, this ensures that we both get at least two builds; whereas supporting your army into Belgium only ensures you three builds and me one. Obviously, building a fleet in Brest will be central to our plans. From dwarf@imsa.edu Fri Jun 28 08:13:17 2002 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 08:13:17 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Fall 1901, France to Germany Message-ID: <20020628121317.GA582@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 2148 Lines: 37 Assuming that England attacks Belgium instead of Holland, then me bouncing with him will tip our hand. My hand, anyway. As a result, his one build is almost certain to be a fleet in London; my builds are obvious and with yours the only question is whether Kiel is a fleet or an army. I'm not sure that matters (yet). The spring round, then, should be predictable: obviously, my Iberian units will move into the MAO and Gascony; his London fleet will move into the Channel with support from the North Sea, which will in turn be supported by his fleet in Norway; my Brest fleet will attack the Channel with no support, but might bounce his fleet if I can convince Russia to attack Norway, since your Danish fleet will attack the North Sea fleet. My Picardy army will with your support move into Belgium. If your Kieler unit is a fleet, could move into Helgoland, but I'm not sure that's necessary. So during the summer of next year we can assume the following arrangement: France has a fully-armed front running from the MAO to Belgium; Germany continues that front up to Denmark. England has a front from the Channel to Norway. At this point it should be moderately easy to mop up England. While he could set up a mutual support operation between his two fleets, that's all he could do---as soon as he does anything else, I can support myself into the Channel while you support yourself into the North Sea; we are then set up for convoying into England---and with four coastline districts to defend with three units, one will have to get through. As soon as either of us get a unit onto the British mainland, we can sweep through the rest in about a year. So, from next spring I estimate three years to the completion of the campaign and the final destruction of England. While one always strives for more territory, I admit that it would be fair for the Kaiser to get the whole north of Great Britain while the Republic merely occupied London; we will have to promise Norway to the Czar if he gives us assistance there, and the assistance will be useful enough to be worth it. What are your thoughts on this strategy? From davids@imsa.edu Thu Jun 27 14:31:47 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g5RIVlQi006618 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 14:31:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id NAA12471 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 13:31:46 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12466 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 13:31:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g5RIVk419452 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 13:31:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 13:31:46 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Subject: Fall 1901, England to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 966 Lines: 21 Esteemed Premier, I had intended to wait until this winter had passed before making you my proposal, but am reminded that trust is best established as soon as possible. I suggest we formalize a long-term alliance, to enable us both to disarm our vulnerable border. Thus, we may each put more forces towards defeating the Kaiser. Will you assist me in a convoy to Belgium this fall? With ground forces on the continent I can more easily secure the German coast. You would be free to move your Picardy division towards whatever target suits you with an ally by your side. You would of course retake the low countries next year as my army moves east; I have need only to gain a foothold. Though I hope our trust goes beyond mere quid pro quo, I realize the difficult burden such an agreement would place on you, Premier. Simply name your price for this assistance, and it will be paid. I eagerly await your reply. Faithfully, Edward VII From dwarf@imsa.edu Fri Jun 28 08:22:33 2002 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 08:22:33 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Fall 1901, France to England Message-ID: <20020628122233.GB582@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 1717 Lines: 39 > I had intended to wait until this winter had passed before making > you my proposal, but am reminded that trust is best established as soon as > possible. This is certainly true. > I suggest we formalize a long-term alliance, to enable us both > to disarm our vulnerable border. Thus, we may each put more forces towards > defeating the Kaiser. This is true, although I'm a little concerned that there is not much room for me to attack: with you in Belgium, I only have Burgundy to funnel all my troops through. How are we going to fix that? I assume that Italy and Austria would not be pleased if I skirted south of Switzerland. > Will you assist me in a convoy to Belgium this fall? With ground > forces on the continent I can more easily secure the German coast. You > would be free to move your Picardy division towards whatever target suits > you with an ally by your side. You would of course retake the low > countries next year as my army moves east; I have need only to gain a > foothold. Since I couldn't get Belgium this year anyway, it's certainly tempting to have a solid guarantee that I could get it later with your support (or at least, with you tying up the German forces so I can slide in behind). > Though I hope our trust goes beyond mere quid pro quo, I realize > the difficult burden such an agreement would place on you, Premier. > Simply name your price for this assistance, and it will be paid. I > eagerly await your reply. Well, aside from Belgium itself, I guess I would want to have Munich within a year or two, and I'd want more when we actually got rid of Germany. Maybe Holland (which you won't need once you're done with Germany!) -le Premier From davids@imsa.edu Thu Jun 27 17:08:10 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g5RL88Qi013097 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 17:08:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id QAA09139 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 16:08:07 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA09131 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 16:08:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g5RL87f11854 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 16:08:07 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 16:08:07 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Subject: Fall 1901, Russia to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 434 Lines: 11 President Loubet, I just wanted to send you a quick message congratulating you for reaching an agreement with England that kept that country out of the English channel and away from your shores. It looks as though you are poised to seize the Iberian peninsula this fall - I wish you good luck in your endeavors. Sincerely, Nicholas II, Tsar of Russia From dwarf@imsa.edu Fri Jun 28 08:30:45 2002 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 08:30:45 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Fall 1901, France to Russia Message-ID: <20020628123045.GC582@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 1087 Lines: 24 > I just wanted to send you a quick message congratulating you for > reaching an agreement with England that kept that country out of the > English channel and away from your shores. Yes, that was a near thing. The Republic is certainly relieved. > It looks as though you are poised to seize the Iberian peninsula this > fall - I wish you good luck in your endeavors. Thank you. We, in turn, would like to wish you luck in the south, where you seem well-poised to control Rumania before winter sets in, and congratulations in the north, where you will certainly soon take Sweden. It is about the latter that I wish to speak. About the same time you take Sweden, it appears that King Edward will be taking Norway. I assume you have his assurances that he will not invade your homeland, but why take chances? We just wish to delicately remind you that you really need to build an army in St Petersburg in order to defend this vital link to the north. (You could also build in Moscow, with a view to moving north and bouncing off any potential attacks.) Bon chance. -le Premier From davids@imsa.edu Wed Jun 26 11:02:35 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g5QF2YQi025354 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 11:02:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id KAA18103 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 10:02:34 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18099 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 10:02:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g5QF2Yc13801 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 10:02:34 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 10:02:34 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Subject: Fall 1901, Italy to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 1216 Lines: 26 Fond greetings from Il Duce Fortunata, Sovreign of Italy, to Le Premier, ruler of France. I am pleased to see that things go well in your current campaigns, and that you will have unchallenged dominance in Iberia in the coming season.  I am happy that things go so well.  As you can see I made no moves against your current position, and while you bided your time in Marseille you should still achieve all your goals.  Congratulations. My neighbor to the east has attempted to manipulate me through deceit. In doing so he has revealed to me that he is quite probably working in alliance with the Germans.  I think that you and I can both see why that would be an unacceptable long term arrangement. What is your current working relationship with England and Germany? Austria's move to keep Russia out of the west (by forcing the bounce in Galacia) has all but handed the north to England and the west to Germany.  Your Iberian conquest, while powerful, will be of little use if England and Germany find reason to work together instead of separately. Few nations feel the interaction between Eastern and Western military theatres as keenly as Italy, and the relative quiet from the west disquiets me. Fortunata From dwarf@imsa.edu Fri Jun 28 08:34:54 2002 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 08:34:54 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Fall 1901, France to Italy Message-ID: <20020628123454.GD582@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 869 Lines: 18 > What is your current working relationship with England and Germany? > Austria's move to keep Russia out of the west (by forcing the bounce in > Galacia) has all but handed the north to England and the west to > Germany.? Your Iberian conquest, while powerful, will be of little use if > England and Germany find reason to work together instead of separately. I hesitate to discuss the diplomatic situation of France here, but we believe that we have the situation under control. > Few nations feel the interaction between Eastern and Western?military > theatres as keenly as Italy, and the relative quiet from the west > disquiets me. You certainly needn't fear an attack from this direction. Our attention is currently on long-term acquisition of Belgium, possibly sometime next year. Best of luck against the Dual Monarch, and against the Sultan. -le Premier From dpb Fri Jun 28 08:39:04 2002 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 08:39:04 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Dip: random note Message-ID: <20020628123904.GE582@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 404 Lines: 8 I noticed that, although the official name of the space is Galicia, the board I have has misspelled it as "Galacia", as have the commentator and some of the players. It's pretty amusing, really, because now I know who's setting up on a real board and who isn't. :) -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- On the door of a Computer Store: "Out for a quick byte." From davids@imsa.edu Fri Jun 28 10:07:48 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g5SE7lQi010310 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 10:07:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id JAA25530 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 09:07:47 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25525 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 09:07:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g5SE7lJ26614 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 09:07:47 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 09:07:47 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Subject: Fall 1901, Germany to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Content-Length: 462 Lines: 9 Your plan looks very well thought out. I will certainly need to build a fleet in Kiel, which may tip my hand: but I will claim that fleet could move East towards Russia (which is, of course, what England wants Germany to do). Taking the North Sea is our first critical goal. Once I have a fleet in Nth, everything else will fall into place. To achieve this, we will probably need four fleets from our countries working in concert. Happy hunting in Iberia. From dpb Fri Jun 28 22:41:38 2002 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 22:41:38 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Winter 1901, France builds Message-ID: <20020629024138.GB2463@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 208 Lines: 5 We build a fleet in Brest and an Army in Paris. As for the holiday break, that would be fantastic---I have a conference from the 5th to the 10th, and was going to manage somehow, but this is much easier. :) From dpb Sat Jun 29 15:14:50 2002 Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 15:14:50 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Spring 1902, France to Germany Message-ID: <20020629191450.GA3105@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 326 Lines: 7 Greetings, Kaiser. I found it interesting that last year you chose to prevent the Czar from entering Sweden ; by my analysis, we need (or at least would be greatly aided by) the Russian presence to harry the King's Norwegian fleet and prevent it from being used against us. What are your plans for that region? -le Premier From dpb Sat Jun 29 15:18:52 2002 Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 15:18:52 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Spring 1902 France moves Message-ID: <20020629191852.GB3105@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 291 Lines: 11 As usual, sending these in early because I'm liable to forget later: F Por -> MAO A Spa -> Gas F Bre -> Eng A Pic -> Bel A Par -> Pic -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- On a Front Door: "Everyone on the premises is a vegetarian except the dog." From davids@imsa.edu Sun Jun 30 14:38:39 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g5UIcdQi000856 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 14:38:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id NAA12305 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 13:38:39 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12301 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 13:38:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g5UIccM28022 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 13:38:38 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 13:38:38 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Spring 1902, Germany to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 639 Lines: 12 Germany is suspicious of the actions between Russia and Austria in Galacia. I'm worried that this may be a feint, and both countries will use this as an "excuse" to mass troops along my border then both turn West. I kept Russia from Sweden only because I wanted to keep Russia from building. This may have been unwise, I'm not sure, but it did keep Russia from a build. For this season, I am going to use my army in Holland to support Picardy into Belgium: so long as you confirm you intend to move thusly. I am pondering my fleet movements: how best can I position my fleets against the North Sea without angering England too soon? From dwarf@imsa.edu Sun Jun 30 15:25:38 2002 Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 15:25:38 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Spring 1902, France to Germany Message-ID: <20020630192538.GF3105@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 1169 Lines: 23 > Germany is suspicious of the actions between Russia and Austria in > Galacia. I'm worried that this may be a feint, and both countries > will use this as an "excuse" to mass troops along my border then both > turn West. I kept Russia from Sweden only because I wanted to keep > Russia from building. This may have been unwise, I'm not sure, but it > did keep Russia from a build. True enough. It appears that Russia and Turkey are in bed with each other, but then, it's unclear what Italy and Austria are up to. I assume that will tie up your two southern units? I'm curious what you intend to do now up north. In particular, I need you to be attacking the North Sea fleet so that England cannot occupy the Channel. Will you do so? Or will you be returning to scuffle in Sweden again? > For this season, I am going to use my army in Holland to support Picardy > into Belgium: so long as you confirm you intend to move thusly. I am > pondering my fleet movements: how best can I position my fleets against > the North Sea without angering England too soon? Excellent. I am in fact moving my army from Picardy into Belgium. See you in the low countries. From davids@imsa.edu Fri Jun 28 13:41:36 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g5SHfYQi015650 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:41:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id MAA23956 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:41:33 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23952 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:41:33 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g5SHfXP17848 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:41:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:41:33 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Subject: Fall 1901, England to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 1200 Lines: 29 Premier, >This is true, although I'm a little concerned that there is not much >room for me to attack: with you in Belgium, I only have Burgundy to >funnel all my troops through. How are we going to fix that? I assume >that Italy and Austria would not be pleased if I skirted south of >Switzerland. You are quite correct--southern concerns must not be ignored. I wish to discuss these matters with you in detail, but we should wait until we have more data. Our immediate goals however may be achieved solely north of the Alps. Belgium returns to you next fall and will provide France a secure western border from which to expand. >Well, aside from Belgium itself, I guess I would want to have Munich >within a year or two, and I'd want more when we actually got rid of >Germany. Maybe Holland (which you won't need once you're done with >Germany!) You offer such generous terms, I feel your fraternity must be genuine. Our allied forces will be dreaded by all who oppose us. I take it, then, that I may trust in your support this fall. Domestic concerns require my attention elsewhere, so I must issue the convoy order to my generals now. Faithfully, Edward VII From dwarf@imsa.edu Sun Jun 30 15:48:16 2002 Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 15:48:16 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Spring 1902, France to England Message-ID: <20020630194816.GG3105@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 1143 Lines: 23 > >Well, aside from Belgium itself, I guess I would want to have Munich > >within a year or two, and I'd want more when we actually got rid of > >Germany. Maybe Holland (which you won't need once you're done with > >Germany!) > > You offer such generous terms, I feel your fraternity must be > genuine. Our allied forces will be dreaded by all who oppose us. I take > it, then, that I may trust in your support this fall. > Domestic concerns require my attention elsewhere, so I must issue > the convoy order to my generals now. France extends its most sincere apology for the misunderstanding in Belgium. Unfortunately, though I intended to dispatch the fresh orders to support your army into Belgium for this year as soon as I received something like the above missive, I was called away on urgent domestic matters for several crucial days, and when I did send the updated orders it was hours too late. The army had already departed Picardy thinking it was to invade Belgium, with the unfortunate result that neither of us succeeded. My most abject apologies. What can we do to make reparations to you ? -le Premier From davids@imsa.edu Mon Jul 1 14:07:44 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g61I7fQi025976 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:07:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id NAA11681 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:07:41 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA11673 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:07:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g61I7f612611 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:07:41 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:07:41 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Spring 1902, England to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 1022 Lines: 20 Premier, Your apology, my dear friend, is not only accepted but completely unnecessary. We understand the difficulties of maintaining communications to troops afield, and take no personal affront. Our concern is merely for the costs incurred as a result, since neither of us was able to exploit Belgium. That weakness can only work to the detriment of our alliance. And as always, the situation is changed from when last we spoke. England still desires Belgium. However, French ground forces are now in a better position to attack Germany by land, and English navies stand at the ready by sea. Perhaps a shift of strategy is in order. A more traditional approach would simplify our communications as well. What are your plans for your new forces? Having lost the benefit of Belgium, we must choose our actions with more care. My first order of business is to consolidate control of the northern waters in Skagerrak and Helgoland. I hope the Kaiser is as greedy as he seems. Cordially, Edward VII From dwarf@imsa.edu Tue Jul 2 16:53:11 2002 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:53:11 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Spring 1902, France to England Message-ID: <20020702205311.GC24058@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 795 Lines: 18 > What are your plans for your new forces? Having lost the benefit of > Belgium, we must choose our actions with more care. I suppose I'll try for Belgium again, while moving my Spanish fleet north in preparation for sweeping east through Burgundy into the German heartland. > My first order of business is to consolidate control of the northern > waters in Skagerrak and Helgoland. I hope the Kaiser is as greedy as > he seems. I expect he'll try for Sweden again, if that's what you mean - you might consider supporting the czar up there - but I would imagine his Kieler fleet will be moving into the bight, no ? I cannot imagine that he would be so confident in taking Sweden (he should at best expect a bouncing) that he would schedule his homeland fleet to take Denmark. -le Premier From dpb Tue Jul 2 16:55:59 2002 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:55:59 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Spring 1902, France moves (revised) Message-ID: <20020702205559.GD24058@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 249 Lines: 10 I'm changing the F Bre orders to Hold, making the whole thing F Por -> MAO A Spa -> Gas F Bre H A Pic -> Bel A Par -> Pic You must be having the grandest time reading all the diplomacy flying back and forth. I'll have to try GMing this sometime. From davids@imsa.edu Tue Jul 2 17:28:31 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g62LSUQi001519 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 17:28:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA30927 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:28:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g62LSU429913 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:28:30 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:28:30 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Re: Spring 1902, France moves (revised) In-Reply-To: <20020702205559.GD24058@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Content-Length: 383 Lines: 11 > You must be having the grandest time reading all the diplomacy flying > back and forth. I'll have to try GMing this sometime. Well, it's kind of a pain in the ass being online most of the day to pass along the messages, and it kindles the urge to actually PLAY even more. But it is kinda fun to read all the messages. If you GM, make sure you save a spot for me to play. :) D From dpb Wed Jul 3 13:36:57 2002 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:36:57 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Swiss missive error? Message-ID: <20020703173657.GB31125@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 380 Lines: 8 The commentary is right on for me not using my Brest fleet properly. But there's a really weird comment about my Spanish army: the French expeditionary force in Spain's movement to Gascony in lieu of Burgundy. Burgundy would be a far more utilitarian move in general, yet that might antagonize a delicate arrangement with Germany. Uh, Spain doesn't connect with Burgundy. From davids@imsa.edu Wed Jul 3 13:42:57 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g63HguQi022133 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:42:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10950 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 12:42:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g63HgtV25493 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 12:42:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 12:42:55 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Re: Swiss missive error? In-Reply-To: <20020703173657.GB31125@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Content-Length: 512 Lines: 15 You are correct. The author has been informed of the error and the comment has been removed from the missive. D > The commentary is right on for me not using my Brest fleet properly. > But there's a really weird comment about my Spanish army: > > the French expeditionary force in Spain's movement to Gascony in lieu of > Burgundy. Burgundy would be a far more utilitarian move in general, yet > that might antagonize a delicate arrangement with Germany. > > Uh, Spain doesn't connect with Burgundy. > From davids@imsa.edu Tue Jul 9 09:53:55 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g69DrsQi018612 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 09:53:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id IAA11642 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:53:54 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA11638 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:53:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g69DrrV09494 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:53:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:53:53 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: From GM - DIP Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Content-Length: 614 Lines: 15 A reminder that the diplomacy game will begin again this evening, July 9th, at 10 pm Eastern Time. Any correspondence sent to the GM addressed to other players received before this time, including messages sent after the adjucation of the Spring 1902 moves have not, and will not be sent. Players who sent such messages, regardless of the notices on the webpage and in =alt.jarf, should resend those messages when diplomacy begins again. Moves for Fall 1902 are due at the regular time, Friday July 12th at 10pm Eastern time. Hopefully, the game should continue with few interruptions for quite some time. D From davids@imsa.edu Wed Jul 10 12:25:39 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g6AGPcQi023507 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:25:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id LAA22937 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:25:38 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA22933 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:25:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g6AGPcf29214 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:25:38 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:25:38 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Fall 1902, England to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Content-Length: 823 Lines: 18 Premier, Though our armies stand on the brink of combat, we may yet avoid war. I hope that the German support order to Belgium is an attempt at misdirection, but your own troop movements are not so easily overlooked. I am disheartened that our cooperation has faded so easily. If you and Germany are irrevocably allied, then we three have no further choices. If, however, your trust in the Kaiser is less certain, then move your Atlantic fleet to the Western Mediterranean. You do not need it against me, certainly--and this will serve as a signal to me of your intentions while strengthening your position in the south. For myself, I expect I shall make an attempt somewhere along the coast of the North Sea. I must somehow get a build this fall. Curse those Krauts! Faithfully, Edward VII From davids@imsa.edu Fri Jul 12 13:33:05 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g6CHX3Qi024684 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:33:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id MAA14584 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:33:03 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA14580 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:33:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g6CHX2J11732 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:33:02 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:33:02 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: From GM - DIP Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Content-Length: 543 Lines: 14 PLAYERS A reminder that moves for Fall 1902 are due THIS EVENING at 10 pm Eastern time. That's 9 pm Central time, 8 pm Mountain time, and 7 pm Pacific time, just so there are no mixups. Moves will be adjucated ASAP by the GM. Please make an effort to get online as early as you can to submit build and/or disband orders. Diplomacy will be suspended until all Winter 1902 orders have been received and the results posted. PLEASE DO NOT SEND DIPLOMACY MESSAGES FOR SPRING 1903 UNTIL THE RESULTS OF WINTER 1902 HAVE BEEN POSTED. Thank you. From davids@imsa.edu Fri Jul 12 19:10:25 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g6CMwlQi009760 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:59:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id RAA27820 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:57:54 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA27816 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:57:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g6CMvrq08817 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:57:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:57:53 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: From GM - DIP Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Content-Length: 82 Lines: 5 Just a reminder to get in final orders for Fall 1902 within the next 3 hours. D From davids@imsa.edu Thu Jul 11 20:52:04 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g6C0q3Qi007941 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:52:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id TAA01460 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:52:03 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA01456 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:52:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g6C0q3e08359 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:52:03 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:52:03 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Fall 1902, Italy to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 2088 Lines: 40 Le Premier,     Congratulations on your nearly overwhelming campaign against England.  He has been writing me most urgently trying to persuade me to move against you, persuasions that I have resisted to this point, especially considering the precarious balance of power in the eastern Med with Turkey.     I am writing you because you have done me no ill and I wouldn't wish you to be harmed by ill words by your fellow monarch.  I had wondered how England had so utterly failed to secure the support of either of his neighbors up to this point.  And just now it was revealed to me, they are perhaps even more stupid then I'd dreamed.  They have been seeking my entrance against you and they then try to turn up the pressure by admitting that they've prevailed upon you to move into the med in the near future with success.     I give you the benefit of the doubt that you are either humoring England's fancy, or that they've spun a fabrication to blacken your reputation with the peoples of Italy.  Please write to me to reassure that you have no near term plans to aggress against me.  I would like to point out that it is a shocking breach of good taste for England to confess their attempts to stir you against me given that their supposed incentive to strike against you was your total lack of preparation for such a strike.  How can I regard such a confession as anything but a blunder, given that he's as much as admitted trying to hurt me for his own gain.     I don't entirely approve of your seemingly perfect alliance with Germany.  It seems to me that should England fall as totally and utterly as they seem poised to do so, you would be forced to move next against me.  This would bring sadness to the Italian people for we cherish our French brethren and their fine cuisine.  Since you must look to the future soon, I would ask you to look at your own near term agenda and give me some inkling what your intentions might be.  For my part, the Italian people are hungry to expand, but the inept collisions in the Mediterranean have stymied any progress. Duce Fortunata From dwarf@imsa.edu Fri Jul 12 19:15:29 2002 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:15:29 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Fall 1902, France to Italy Message-ID: <20020712231529.GA17941@cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 3536 Lines: 65 > ??? Congratulations on your nearly overwhelming campaign against > England.? He has been writing me most urgently trying to persuade me to > move against you, persuasions that I have resisted to this point, > especially considering the precarious balance of power in the eastern Med > with Turkey. The Republic thanks you for this forwarning. The King has been attempting to win us over for some time now, but his assurances and promises are vague at best. It is reassuring to know that our assessment - that the King's overtures were merely a stalling tactic - was correct. > ??? I am writing you because you have done me no ill and I wouldn't wish > you to be harmed by ill words by your fellow monarch.? I had wondered how > England had so utterly failed to secure the support of either of his > neighbors up to this point.? And just now it was revealed to me, they are > perhaps even more stupid then I'd dreamed.? They have been seeking my > entrance against you and they then try to turn up the pressure by > admitting that they've prevailed upon you to move into the med in the > near future with success. He did indeed request that I move into the mediterranean sea, but I haven't even responded to his communique ; his assertion that he had "succeeded" is therefore a clear fabrication. He can't even claim to have misunderstood what we said. > ??? I give you the benefit of the doubt that you are either humoring > England's fancy, or that they've spun a fabrication to blacken your > reputation with the peoples of Italy.? Please write to me to reassure > that you have no near term plans to aggress against me.? I would like to > point out that it is a shocking breach of good taste for England to > confess their attempts to stir you against me given?that their supposed > incentive to strike against you was your total lack of preparation for > such a strike.? How can I regard such a confession as anything but a > blunder, given that he's as much as admitted trying to hurt me for his > own gain. The King grasps at straws. > ??? I don't entirely approve of your seemingly perfect alliance with > Germany.? It seems to me that should England fall as totally and utterly > as they seem poised to do so, you would be forced to move next against > me.? This would bring sadness to the Italian people for we cherish our > French brethren and their fine cuisine.? Since you must look to the > future soon, I would ask you to look at your own near term agenda and > give me some inkling what your intentions might be.? For my part, the > Italian people are hungry to expand, but the inept collisions in the > Mediterranean have stymied any progress. It is too early to make plans until the theatrics to the north have played themselves out, but it should be clear that we offer you no threat - from a practical standpoint if nothing else, it would be insanity to begin a second front of war. A caveat : Depending on the results of the next season of conflict, I may be forced to construct a fleet in Marseilles. I give you fair warning now, and also the promise that it will tightly hug the coast, staying in southern France and Spain, not taking to the open sea until it has passed the straits of Gibraltar and is in the Atlantic ocean. This is, of course, an undesirable sequence of events for us as much as for you. As our treaty regarding a demilitarized zone has until now proven so strong, we wish to give you every assurance that we have no ill intentions and do not wish to surprise you. -le Premier From davids@imsa.edu Thu Jul 11 09:17:13 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g6BDHCQi020579 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:17:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id IAA02937 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:17:12 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02933 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:17:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g6BDHCo15573 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:17:12 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:17:12 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Fall 1902, Germany to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 264 Lines: 7 Things go well, but I'm concerned about the English fleet in the channel. Will you not evict it this season? Germany hopes to make ground on the English as well. Don't worry about England taking Belgium -- my army in Holland will support you there. Good luck. From dwarf@imsa.edu Fri Jul 12 19:22:46 2002 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:22:46 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Fall 1902, France to Germany Message-ID: <20020712232246.GB17941@cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 860 Lines: 16 > Things go well, but I'm concerned about the English fleet in the channel. > Will you not evict it this season? Germany hopes to make ground on the > English as well. Don't worry about England taking Belgium -- my army in > Holland will support you there. We will certainly attempt to evict the English fleet, yes. The King, in a last-minute straw grasping, has sent me a communique informing me that he would not be attacking any of my positions, and would instead be concentrating on your North Sea possessions (and encouraging me to do the same!). If in fact he is naive enough to do so, our invasion should proceed apace. My Belgian army will support your Dutch army as well. As such, your units should at least be able to hold the front (if not advance), and with a French fleet in the Channel next year there will be no stopping us. -le Premier From dpb Fri Jul 12 19:26:29 2002 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:26:29 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Fall 1902, France moves Message-ID: <20020712232629.GC17941@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 480 Lines: 14 Just got back from the conference I was at, and then I couldn't log in to my main email system most of the day. :P I was just about ready to send you moves from pollux without reading (or responding to) the season's diplomacy... anyway, seems to have worked out alright. Here are my moves: F Bre -> Eng F MAO S F Bre -> Eng A Gas S F Bre A Pic S A Bel A Bel S A Hol I'm not even sure if the Gascon army can support the fleet like that, but there's not much else he can do. :) From davids@imsa.edu Thu Jul 11 17:59:39 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g6BLxdQi005294 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:59:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id QAA11979 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:59:38 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA11975 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:59:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g6BLxca21478 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:59:38 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:59:38 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Fall 1902, England to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 619 Lines: 14 Esteemed Premier, Will you consult with me? England can surely offer you a more suitable ally than Germany. More to the point, who do you think would benefit from my destruction? Not you, I fear. Though I know not why, as I have been ever honest with you, I doubt you will accept any tactical suggestions from me at this time. Thus, I propose nothing to you now but a truce. I will not move against your holdings in any way, if you will do the same. We may then each decide our strategies at our leisure. What say you? Yea or nay, I desire most to receive a reply. Faithfully, Edward VII From dwarf@imsa.edu Fri Jul 12 19:38:52 2002 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:38:52 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Fall 1902, France to England Message-ID: <20020712233852.GD17941@cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 1244 Lines: 23 > Will you consult with me? England can surely offer you a more > suitable ally than Germany. More to the point, who do you think would > benefit from my destruction? Not you, I fear. > Though I know not why, as I have been ever honest with you, I > doubt you will accept any tactical suggestions from me at this time. > Thus, I propose nothing to you now but a truce. I will not move against > your holdings in any way, if you will do the same. We may then each > decide our strategies at our leisure. Despite some relatively believable rumors that you have been attempting to turn Italy against me, I must admit that your arguments have some reason. While I will not retreat my units, I will again hold Brest for the time being. I do not currently have the ability to reorient my units toward Germany ; perhaps once you have made inroads in the north I will be able to adjust accordingly. I will, however, note that the Kaiser seems to have gotten some sort of support from the czar - as such I believe he intends to attack the North Sea from Helgoland, with unbreakable support from Denmark (since the Danish fleet will be supported from both Kiel and Sweden). You may use this information as you wish. -le Premier From dpb Sat Jul 13 01:04:51 2002 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 01:04:52 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Winter 1902, France build Message-ID: <20020713050451.GA19771@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 349 Lines: 7 I just realised, it doesn't actually matter where England retreats to, I still want a fleet in Brest. Or rather, a fleet in Brest (tee hee). -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- "If Bill Gates and company installed your plumbing, you'd be drinking from the toilet and pissing in the pool." --Bill Buxton From dpb Sat Jul 13 12:43:26 2002 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:43:26 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Spring 1903, France to Germany Message-ID: <20020713164326.GC19771@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 659 Lines: 15 The offensive continues roughly as planned. French troops will probably be on the British island this Spring, or by the Fall at the outside. We are still aiming to divide England as previously agreed, although the vagaries of war may cause us to take one of the northern centers temporarily. We assume that the mutual support agreement in the low countries will continue? Finally, it is now time to begin discussion of our post-England plans. We note with great interest your threat to the Czar in Silesia - it seems early to be so overt, but Russia is certainly the obvious next direction, for you. Have you thought about it in detail yet? -le Premier From dpb Sat Jul 13 21:15:17 2002 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 21:15:17 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Spring 1903, map's wrong Message-ID: <20020714011517.GA25110@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 502 Lines: 11 You're doing the maps by _hand_? Because it's wrong: the reported orders for Russia had Ukraine supporting Warsaw into Galicia, but the map has it the other way around. -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- The New Testament offers the basis for modern computer coding theory, in the form of an affirmation of the binary number system. But let your communication be Yea, yea; nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil. --Matthew 5:37 From davids@imsa.edu Sat Jul 13 23:32:21 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g6E3WKQi002841 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 23:32:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA10886 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 22:32:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g6E3WKV11842 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 22:32:20 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 22:32:20 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Re: Spring 1903, map's wrong In-Reply-To: <20020714011517.GA25110@cs.brown.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Content-Length: 314 Lines: 13 On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, Don Blaheta wrote: > You're doing the maps by _hand_? Because it's wrong: the reported > orders for Russia had Ukraine supporting Warsaw into Galicia, but the > map has it the other way around. > No, I entered the move wrong. The map(s) have been fixed. Thanks for pointing it out. D > From dpb Sat Jul 13 23:55:29 2002 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 23:55:29 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Guesses on players Message-ID: <20020714035529.GB25110@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 406 Lines: 9 I have no idea who's playing what, but I'm guessing that Eva, Joe, Chris, Neil, and Mike Peil are playing, plus maybe one of the younguns (Don Ford?). Or maybe this btyler fellow, he seems to be posting a lot. I'm also convinced that Mike Kimmitt writes the Swiss Missive. -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- Why do we drive on parkways and park on driveways? From davids@imsa.edu Mon Jul 15 12:51:54 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g6FGprQi003412 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 12:51:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id LAA04616 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:51:53 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04611 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:51:52 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g6FGpqT18872 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:51:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:51:52 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Spring 1903, Germany to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 1688 Lines: 34 Things go well! Congratulations on evicting England from the Channel: I hope to take the North Sea this season. I may not succeed, and thus we should work on long term goals as well as short term goals this season. For the short term, I humbly request that your fleet attacks London. This will cut possible support to the North Sea, and if Russia cuts support from Skag, ensures that I will take the North Sea and break England's back. For the long term, I humbly suggest that you move into NAt and MAt with your fleets. This will flank the English navy and ensure our success, even if we do not take the North Sea this season. I am suggesting that you do not take the Irish Sea this season: there is a small chance that England will, out of desperation, move Nth-Eng and Lon S Nth-Eng. I doubt he would do this, but if he does I will take Nth and you can retreat from Eng to Iri. This is perfect. We will have fleets all around the island, except for the Channel. And England will be unable to stop convoys into Edi and Liv. So, don't sweat losing Eng, because our gains will be far greater in the Fall if England makes such a poor move. This Spring is best spent positioning for Fall attacks, and if we have fleets in the North Sea, North Atlantic, and either the Channel or the Irish Sea, then we will be in a very good position indeed. As for the future, I imagine that it would be best for us to "turn our backs on each other". We would demilitarize the island, and you would turn to Italy and I would turn to Russia. With the builds we would get from taking out England, plus the natural advantage of having a corner demilitarized, we would be fairly unstoppable. From dwarf@imsa.edu Mon Jul 15 21:37:55 2002 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:37:55 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Spring 1903, France to Germany Message-ID: <20020716013755.GA4875@cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 2115 Lines: 42 > For the short term, I humbly request that your fleet attacks London. > This will cut possible support to the North Sea, and if Russia cuts > support from Skag, ensures that I will take the North Sea and break > England's back. In fact, I was planning to convoy an army into Wales. Having an actual army on the isle would be greatly helpful, and the move will almost certainly succeed, since the King would be suicidal to order his London fleet into Wales. > For the long term, I humbly suggest that you move into NAt and MAt ... > I am suggesting that you do not take the Irish Sea this season: there > is a small chance that England will, out of desperation, move Nth-Eng and > Lon S Nth-Eng. ... I have noted this very scenario as my worst case, and have thus planned to have Brest support the Channel fleet (making him immune to attack). I could indeed move into the NAO instead of the Irish Sea with no tactical loss (indeed a tactical win, as he will then be able to sweep around to the north, as you note). I am sympathetic to your call for support on your North Sea endeavor, of course. I just wonder if a direct attack - a 'blitz' if you will - on London itself might not be a waste of time? The ideal thing, of course, would be to goad England into doing that very attack (from the North Sea, supported by London); my fleets can withstand it, and it would rather open the way for your own. For instance, if I sent him our "plans" to surround England (roughly the plan you detail), perhaps he would spend his fury against the Channel fleet, thinking it might succeed? > As for the future, I imagine that it would be best for us to "turn our > backs on each other". We would demilitarize the island, and you would > turn to Italy and I would turn to Russia. With the builds we would get > from taking out England, plus the natural advantage of having a corner > demilitarized, we would be fairly unstoppable. This is exactly how I had hoped you would respond. I would be entirely amenable to such an arrangement, and in fact am already considering how best to turn quickly south. -le Premier From dpb Sat Jul 13 12:37:00 2002 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:37:00 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Spring 1903, France moves Message-ID: <20020713163700.GB19771@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 377 Lines: 14 Here are my moves for this season, assuming nothing changes: A Bel S A Hol A Pic -> Wal F Eng C A Pic -> Wal F MAO -> Iri F Bre -> MAO The Army in Gascony takes a furlough in Switzerland. I hear it's quite nice there this time of year. -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- Borrow money from pessimists---they don't expect it back. From davids@imsa.edu Sat Jul 13 15:12:27 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g6DJCQQi027056 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:12:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02182 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 14:12:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g6DJCQS29146 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 14:12:26 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 14:12:26 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Re: Spring 1903, France moves In-Reply-To: <20020713163700.GB19771@cs.brown.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 364 Lines: 20 Don Blaheta. He's got a *plan*, and damn it all to hell if diplomacy will change it one bit. :) D > Here are my moves for this season, assuming nothing changes: > > A Bel S A Hol > A Pic -> Wal > F Eng C A Pic -> Wal > F MAO -> Iri > F Bre -> MAO > > The Army in Gascony takes a furlough in Switzerland. I hear it's quite > nice there this time of year. > > From dpb@cs.brown.edu Sat Jul 13 16:13:26 2002 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 16:13:26 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Re: Spring 1903, France moves Message-ID: <20020713201326.GE19771@cs.brown.edu> References: <20020713163700.GB19771@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 993 Lines: 19 Quoth David Singleton: > Don Blaheta. He's got a *plan*, and damn it all to hell if diplomacy > will change it one bit. More like: "He's got a *plan*, and damn it if he's going to forget to submit moves." In one or two online dip games I've been on, I'd be actively playing and then I would miss a deadline, my units go into disorder, and it's just a mess. So I try to make a habit of submitting *something* early. Actually, those moves probably *will* change somewhat, but we'll see. Hey, if this were adjudicated by a program I'd probably send in several moves revisions, but in deference to your mailbox, I'm trying to send in no more than two per season. :) -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- Some people hack for fun, some because they want things their way, some don't because they can't, and some because they can't be bothered. Some can make anything work, some can but would rather not, and some could misconfigure a bowling ball. From dpb Tue Jul 16 18:17:20 2002 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:17:20 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Spring 1903, France moves Message-ID: <20020716221720.GA10841@cs.brown.edu> References: <20020713163700.GB19771@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020713163700.GB19771@cs.brown.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 117 Lines: 7 A Bel S A Hol A Pic S A Bel F Eng -> Lon F MAO -> NAO F Bre -> MAO A Gas -> Switzerland (for a vacation, of course) From davids@imsa.edu Tue Jul 16 14:46:54 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g6GIksQi004796 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:46:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id NAA12619 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:46:53 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12615 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:46:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g6GIkr632187 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:46:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:46:53 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Spring 1903, Germany to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 947 Lines: 21 Good to hear from you. The main problem Germany has with France landing an army in Wales is pace. If England does the sensible thing, and supports the North Sea from London, German fleets will be forced to sit behind a wall of English fleets while you carve up the island. You will be at a different pace than I; alliances don't work like that, unless you have Churchill on your side. That being said, an important consideration is that we must work together to equitably conquer England. It's difficult to give up a center once you've taken it, and I don't want to have to ask you to give up any centers you've already occupied. Therefore it's critical that I take the North Sea this season. Russia has pledged to help me, by attacking Skag. England's only remaining possible support is from London: and I feel that England will make that move because it's England's strongest move. So I ask that you please attack London, this season. From dwarf@imsa.edu Tue Jul 16 18:18:28 2002 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:18:28 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Spring 1903, France to Germany Message-ID: <20020716221828.GB10841@cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 59 Lines: 3 You have much reason. It will be as you say. -le Premier From dpb Wed Jul 17 09:32:28 2002 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:32:28 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Fall 1903, France to Germany Message-ID: <20020717133228.GA16536@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 1409 Lines: 24 Our Spring offensive went off beautifully thanks to your sage advice. What now? I see a number of possibilities. First of all, despite your earlier arguments about pacing and so forth, I could move into Liverpool unopposed this round, and the reason that would be beneficial is that it would cut England's supply lines and force him to disband his fleet in the Skaggerak. Furthermore, since we will be demilitarising the Isle anyway, it doesn't matter which center I take. As for what to do on the other side of the island, I see three possibilities, based on where the North Sea fleet moves. It could move into London, with support from my Channel fleet, which will succeed if England moves north from Yorkshire to defend Edinburgh. It could move into Edinburgh, which will succeed if England uses the Yorkshiremen to support his London fleet. And it could move north to the Norwegian Sea, which is guaranteed to succeed, and will set up for next year. In the latter two cases, my Channel fleet will support the Helgolander fleet into the North Sea. The last plan is guaranteed not to get you any centers this year, but almost certainly guarantees both by next Fall (but only if the third English fleet goes away). The first two plans are 50-50 gambles, but you could get the extra center now. The call is yours. (And of course, I may have missed something.) I await your response. -le Premier From davids@imsa.edu Wed Jul 17 10:09:56 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g6HE9uQi026129 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:09:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id JAA05092 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:09:56 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05088 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:09:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g6HE9tx08446 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:09:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:09:55 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Fall 1903, Germany to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Content-Length: 1577 Lines: 34 I just got your message, and your're right: things go very well for us! Your suggestion that you take Liverpool is good. Bringing England down to two centers will make him much more manageable. As for my North Sea fleet, I like your first idea better. I will move the fleet into London, and have my Helgo fleet move behind it into the North Sea. Will you support F Nth - Lon? If I fail to take London this season, my fleet will most likely stay in the North Sea (if it's evicted, which is possible, I would retreat to Edi: no problem!). If it's in the North Sea next spring, I could take Edi next year instead. One thing that would help is if you could land an army on the island Might I suggest that you move thusly: A Gas - Liv F MAt C A Gas - Liv F NAt C A Gas - Liv Having an army in Liverpool would help bring England to its knees. If I fail to take London, and remain in the North Sea, an army in Liverpool could support me into Edi next year: a fleet cannot. Obviously, if you move your army out of Gascony, you will want to get another army down there soon; Italy isn't to be trusted. At this point, there is no reason to keep both of your armies hugging the North coast, as we control the waters to the North. And, ideally, I'd like to have us both vacate Belgium and Holland as soon as possible. Those resources can be used better elsewhere. Might I suggest that you move Bel-Bur? It would be nice to have an allied army down South, as I still have nightmares about an Italian/Austrian/Russian alliance against me. Thoughts? From dwarf@imsa.edu Thu Jul 18 23:02:07 2002 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:02:07 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Fall 1903, France to Germany Message-ID: <20020719030207.GA26309@cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 2627 Lines: 58 > I just got your message, and your're right: things go very well for us! > Your suggestion that you take Liverpool is good. Bringing England down to > two centers will make him much more manageable. Yes. > As for my North Sea fleet, I like your first idea better. I will move the > fleet into London, and have my Helgo fleet move behind it into the North > Sea. Will you support F Nth - Lon? Certainly. > ... One thing that would help is if you could land an army on > the island > > Might I suggest that you move thusly: > A Gas - Liv > F MAt C A Gas - Liv > F NAt C A Gas - Liv My only reservation to this plan is that having an army adjacent to Marseilles is crucial to my Italy plans; while I can move another army down there, if I do so it becomes immediately clear to Italy that I'm planning to invade him (if it isn't already). However, the army in Gascony that is already there is felt to be less threatening. This is not a deal-killer, I merely wish to bring my concern to the table. > Having an army in Liverpool would help bring England to its knees. If I > fail to take London, and remain in the North Sea, an army in Liverpool > could support me into Edi next year: a fleet cannot. Not precisely true: a fleet in Liverpool could support you into Edinburgh in the *Fall* of next year, having moved to Clyde in the interim season. Again, this is not meant to negate the point (an army *would* be preferable from your point of view), merely to make the discourse more precise. > Obviously, if you move your army out of Gascony, you will want to get > another army down there soon; Italy isn't to be trusted. At this point, > there is no reason to keep both of your armies hugging the North coast, as > we control the waters to the North. And, ideally, I'd like to have us > both vacate Belgium and Holland as soon as possible. Those resources can > be used better elsewhere. Might I suggest that you move Bel-Bur? It > would be nice to have an allied army down South, as I still have > nightmares about an Italian/Austrian/Russian alliance against me. I would definitely be interested in a mutual demilitarization of the Low Countries, but - and I hope you understand this is not personal - not until after we are done with England, and not during the Fall season. To sum up: * I will definitely support you into London with my Channel fleet. * I would much prefer to move my fleet into Liverpool, thus supporting you into Edinburgh in Fall 1904, but I am willing to negotiate further. * I would rather not demilitarize the Low Countries at this time. -le Premier From dpb Thu Jul 18 23:13:21 2002 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:13:21 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Fall 1903, France moves Message-ID: <20020719031321.GA26497@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 262 Lines: 12 Subject to revision, I make the following moves: F NAO -> Lvp F Eng S F Nth -> Lon F MAO S F Eng A Pic S A Bel A Bel S A Hol A Gas H -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- Flashlight: A case for holding dead batteries. From dpb Thu Jul 18 23:27:06 2002 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:27:06 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Fall 1903, France to Austria-Hungary Message-ID: <20020719032706.GB26497@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 1562 Lines: 30 Hello again. We haven't corresponded in quite some time, but I thought it would be nice to renew diplomatic ties. The Republic extends its sympathies at your current situation, and while we hate to be thought of as meddlers, we would like to send along some (admittedly unsolicited) advice. The situation of your supply centers is of course dire, but we hope you realize that you cannot hope to retake Trieste this year unless Italy makes a mistake or the nascent Italo-Russian alliance dissolves. You have to assume that Russia's Galician army will attack Budapest, meaning that you have only enough support into Trieste to repel the Italian fleet, not to take it yourself ; and the center would remain in Italian hands. As such, it behooves you to abandon Trieste for now and expend effort to retake Vienna and save Greece. We suggest that you use your Budapest army to support the army from Tyrolia into Vienna; this will succeed *either* if Russia fails to attack *or* if Italy uses his Viennese army to attack Trieste, both of which are possible (especially if you negotiate with Russia somehow). Meanwhile, a supported attack on Greece should be at least enough to retain the supply center and prevent it from falling into other hands. It is not, you see, that we bear any specific ill will towards Italy at this time ; but we would prefer that Italy not become too large. While we cannot currently commit any resources to your conflict, we may be able to lend some aid in the future, if you can manage to hold out for a few seasons. -le Premier From davids@imsa.edu Fri Jul 19 10:50:28 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g6JEoRQi018284 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:50:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id JAA05805 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:50:26 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05801 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:50:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g6JEoQL10070 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:50:26 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:50:26 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Fall 1903, Germany to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 804 Lines: 17 Excellent points! I concede them all. > * I will definitely support you into London with my Channel fleet. > * I would much prefer to move my fleet into Liverpool, thus supporting > you into Edinburgh in Fall 1904, but I am willing to negotiate further. > * I would rather not demilitarize the Low Countries at this time. I hadn't thought of the interim season, between your occupation of Liverpool and my attack on Edi. That will be enough time to get your fleet to Clyde if necessary: and it may not even be necessary. Given that, you might consider occupying the Irish Sea as well this year. It's possible that England will try to retake Liverpool next year as a last-ditch effort to survive; if your fleet supports me in Edi, you will need another to keep England out of Liverpool. Thanks! From dwarf@imsa.edu Fri Jul 19 18:43:32 2002 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:43:32 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Fall 1903, France to Germany Message-ID: <20020719224332.GA32185@cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 775 Lines: 14 > Given that, you might consider occupying the Irish Sea as well this > year. It's possible that England will try to retake Liverpool next > year as a last-ditch effort to survive; if your fleet supports me in > Edi, you will need another to keep England out of Liverpool. That's a good point, but consider that there are essentially two possibilities after this Winter: either England will have one fleet, in Edinburgh, or two fleets with one in Yorkshire and one in London. In the former case, Liverpool is not threatened. In the latter, the only threat is from the Londoner fleet, who would be crazy to abandon London for Liverpool, and in any case, this single unit can be defended against tactically with the Channel fleet. There should be no problem. -le Premier From dpb Fri Jul 19 23:39:08 2002 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:39:08 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Winter 1903, France build Message-ID: <20020720033908.GA747@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 294 Lines: 9 Dammit, I wish I'd sent that to Austria earlier, he might've salvaged something. Oh well. I build 1 fleet in Marseilles. Onward ho! -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- There's nothing wrong with teenagers that reasoning with them won't aggravate. From davids@imsa.edu Sat Jul 20 13:39:19 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g6KHdJQi012655 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 13:39:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id MAA12029 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 12:39:18 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12025 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 12:39:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g6KHdIW05614 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 12:39:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 12:39:18 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Spring 1904, Germany to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 2109 Lines: 41 Congratulations! We are doing well. As has been noted, our biggest concern right now should be an alliance between Russia and Italy. We should be exploring all possible diplomatic routes to keep that alliance from solidifying. But I fear it is inevitable. That being said, we both must turn away from England this season, leaving only enough forces to take Edi. I will move against Russia this season, and your fleets must move south to engage Italy. My advisors have looked at the map, and they have a plan. We only ask that your fleet move Liv - Cly this season, and support us into Edi in the fall: assuming your Spring move is sucessful. I realize that I can take Edi without your support, but here is my reasoning for why I'm requesting support. Right now Russia is growing. And it will continue to grow, given the unguarded supply centers Austria abandoned in the Balkans. I need to strike Russia with great force and great speed, immediatly. My best plan of attack, on Russia, seems to involve taking Sweden in the fall. To do this, I will need to cut support to Sweden from Norway. I can do this from the North Sea, so long as that unit is not needed to help take Edi. That's where your support from Clyde comes in. I will move my fleet from London to Yorkshire with support from the North Sea, and I will take Edi with your support in the Fall. English moves into York, Nth, or Nrg cannot stop this. Only a move to Clyde can. Another thing that occurs to me, as I write this, is that my plan calls for me to gain two centers while you gain only position on Italy. Now, the position you will have in a year will be superb, but I want to make sure you are comfortable with this: your ally gaining centers while you achieve a superior position. If this makes you uncomfortable, there may be other options. For instance: if in the Spring everything works out, and I am in a position to take Sweden, we may consider having France take Edi and Germany take Swe. Obviously this only works if I am in a position to take Sweden, and if your move into Clyde goes through. Let me know. From dwarf@imsa.edu Sat Jul 20 22:51:46 2002 Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 22:51:46 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Spring 1904, France to Germany Message-ID: <20020721025146.GB6579@cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 1815 Lines: 37 > As has been noted, our biggest concern right now should be an alliance > between Russia and Italy. We should be exploring all possible diplomatic > routes to keep that alliance from solidifying. But I fear it is > inevitable. It does seem likely, yes. I had hoped that Austria would be able to hold together for a bit longer, but apparently not. > That being said, we both must turn away from England this season, > leaving only enough forces to take Edi. I will move against Russia > this season, and your fleets must move south to engage Italy. Yes. > My advisors have looked at the map, and they have a plan. We only ask > that your fleet move Liv - Cly this season, and support us into Edi in > the fall: assuming your Spring move is sucessful. That is what I planned, yes. > Another thing that occurs to me, as I write this, is that my plan calls > for me to gain two centers while you gain only position on Italy. Now, > the position you will have in a year will be superb, but I want to make > sure you are comfortable with this: your ally gaining centers while you > achieve a superior position. If this makes you uncomfortable, there may > be other options. For instance: if in the Spring everything works out, > and I am in a position to take Sweden, we may consider having France take > Edi and Germany take Swe. Obviously this only works if I am in a position > to take Sweden, and if your move into Clyde goes through. I certainly appreciate the consideration ; I had worried about the fact that you might be up one on me at the end of this year, but I had assumed that there was little to be done about it. Of course, I have been up one on you for some time now, so the change in relative status is not outrageous in any case. We can discuss this further next season. -le Premier From davids@imsa.edu Fri Jul 19 20:02:17 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g6K02GQi000241 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:02:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id TAA16199 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 19:02:16 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA16195 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 19:02:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g6K02Gq18982 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 19:02:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 19:02:16 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Fall 1903, Italy to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 457 Lines: 14 Prime Minister,   I hear that Burgundy is quite lovely in spring. Are you expecting any visitors there?   We remain strongly committed to our mutual non-agression agreement, and would like to see if there is any way that France could be ersuaded to extend that agreement more fully into one of active cooperation. We are willing to go no furthur west and become a partner in French expansion, is she chooses to look for one.  Il Duce Fortunata, Venice From dwarf@imsa.edu Sat Jul 20 23:37:09 2002 Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 23:37:09 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Spring 1904, France to Italy Message-ID: <20020721033709.GC6579@cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 1315 Lines: 24 > We remain strongly committed to our mutual non-agression agreement, Just so. But it has not passed our notice that your fleet in the Tyrhenian Sea has remained long past the point where it has any apparent utility. It is, of course, outside the purview of our agreement, and far be it from us to make any accusations ; nevertheless, it has made my Ministry of Defense rather nervous, and while the majority of my forces move to the northeast, the Minister insisted on placing a naval unit on the opposite side of our DMZ. I hope you understand. > would like to see if there is any way that France could be ersuaded to > extend that agreement more fully into one of active cooperation. We are > willing to go no furthur west and become a partner in French expansion, > is she chooses to look for one. We're certainly impressed with your recent exploits in Austria, but it's unclear how much support you can give to our German offensive, which will be swinging around to come mostly from the north. Then again, a mere threatening presence on Germany's southern border, in Tyrolia or Bohemia, may be enough to tie up some German units to my advantage. We will be in contact again in a season or two; Spring is not the time for backstabs, so it will not be until this Fall that I attack Germany. -le Premier From dpb Sun Jul 21 23:49:38 2002 Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 23:49:38 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Spring 1904, France moves Message-ID: <20020722034938.GA13310@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 252 Lines: 13 The plot thickens. F Lvp -> Cly F MAt -> WMed F Mar -> GoL A Gas -> Mar A Pic -> Bre F Eng -> MAt A Bel S A Hol -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- A bartender is just a pharmacist with a limited inventory. From davids@imsa.edu Mon Jul 22 13:03:38 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g6MH3cQi020443 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:03:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id MAA26939 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:03:38 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA26935 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:03:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g6MH3bU28552 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:03:37 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:03:37 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Spring 1904, Germany to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 1097 Lines: 22 > I certainly appreciate the consideration ; I had worried about the fact > that you might be up one on me at the end of this year, but I had > assumed that there was little to be done about it. Of course, I have > been up one on you for some time now, so the change in relative status > is not outrageous in any case. We can discuss this further next season. Good. I just wanted to let you know that Edi is still on the table, depending on whether or not I am successful in duping Russia. However, I do belive that Russia and Italy are "on to me". I have been making various gestures towards Russia, alluding to a possible German-French conflict once England is eliminated. I've been talking with Russia along these lines for a few seasons now, all to keep him distracted from my true purpose, to keep his forces in the North at a minimum. But I erred in this, by not also talking to his ally, Italy. Now they are suspicious that I am planning on stabbing you without asking for Italian support. Ah, well. Hopefully they will be lulled for one more season: that's all I really need. From dwarf@imsa.edu Mon Jul 22 13:59:38 2002 Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:59:38 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Spring 1904, France to Germany Message-ID: <20020722175938.GC16600@cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 1207 Lines: 25 > Good. I just wanted to let you know that Edi is still on the table, > depending on whether or not I am successful in duping Russia. > > However, I do belive that Russia and Italy are "on to me". I have been > making various gestures towards Russia, alluding to a possible > German-French conflict once England is eliminated. I've been talking with > Russia along these lines for a few seasons now, all to keep him distracted > from my true purpose, to keep his forces in the North at a minimum. But I > erred in this, by not also talking to his ally, Italy. Now they are > suspicious that I am planning on stabbing you without asking for Italian > support. > > Ah, well. Hopefully they will be lulled for one more season: that's all > I really need. I am, unsurprisingly, in the same position. I just realized this season that Italy seems suspicious that I haven't talked to Russia about my "plans" to attack you. Frankly, I don't care as long as Italy doesn't use his Tyrhenian fleet to move west this season. Hm, I think I'll send Russia something right now. I can just imagine the two of them laughing about it. Well, laughing until the next season's orders come in, anyway. -le Premier From dpb Mon Jul 22 14:08:42 2002 Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:08:42 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Spring 1904, France to Russia Message-ID: <20020722180842.GD16600@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 883 Lines: 15 Greetings, czar. As I said several seasons ago, we in Paris wish to maintain the camaraderie between our two countries as we have for many years. In particular, I have a favor to ask. It is difficult to put this delicately, so I will just come out and say it : now that England's death rattle echoes across Europe, I am beginning to make plans for my eastward push through Germany. As such, my life would me made greatly easier if you could... distract the Kaiser for a season. As ever, the time for backstabs is in the Fall, so if you could threaten during this Spring season, my knife could be perfectly timed as the Kaiser turns to face you. I won't presume to dictate the best way to do this, and I understand that you are occupied in the south. But a move, say, into the Baltic Sea, or even better into Silesia - Germany itself! - would be much appreciated. -le Premier From davids@imsa.edu Sun Jul 21 14:33:54 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g6LIXsQi001459 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:33:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id NAA30237 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 13:33:54 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA30233 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 13:33:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g6LIXr611970 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 13:33:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 13:33:53 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Spring 1904, Italy to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 1012 Lines: 20   I understand perfectly about your security concerns.  Stationing token forces to patrol the Italian side of the DMZ early on were necessary to keep the belief that I would move against you alive in the hearts and minds of those who thought I could be easily lured into unprofitable and unsupported military adventures.   I'm frankly surprised that you're so eager to engage the German.  I for my part would worry a great deal about whether Russia thought they could trade a distant alliance partner for a close one since that would keep them from needing to face the fury of a seven supply center power just yet while they're consolidating.  Don't mistake me, I want your campaign against the Prussian powers to proceed solidly, and I'm sure he hasn't made any deals with the other powers yet.   If you need to write to discuss specific tactical maneuvers, please let me know.  I'm going to review my current DMZ policy to see if we're been inappropriately provacative in our stationing. Il Duce Fortunata From dwarf@imsa.edu Mon Jul 22 14:20:26 2002 Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:20:26 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Spring 1904, France to Italy Message-ID: <20020722182026.GF16600@cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 992 Lines: 22 > I for > my part would worry a great deal about whether Russia thought they could > trade a distant alliance partner for a close one since that would keep > them from needing to face the fury of a seven supply center power just > yet while they're consolidating. I've only just contacted Russia, actually - I thought I could handle Germany myself. But thank you for reminding me. > If you need to write to discuss specific tactical maneuvers, please let > me know. I was going to say no, but I was just looking at my War Department's mapboard, and I noticed that you have an army all the way up in Vienna! Too bad Austria's in Tyrolia, because I wouldn't feel bad asking you to go there to distract the Kaiser ; but would it be at all possible to move that unit into Bohemia ? The Tyrolian army wouldn't attack Vienna this round, because he wouldn't expect you to leave it, and you could move back in in the Fall (I only need the Kaiser distracted for one season, really). -le Premier From dpb Wed Jul 24 10:11:55 2002 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:11:55 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Fall 1904, France to Germany Message-ID: <20020724141155.GA30032@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 638 Lines: 15 Solid work. It looks like you're poised to sweep through Scandinavia, with Russia unable to do anything about it. I have no idea why England moved up to the Norwegian Sea, unless maybe he hopes to make your life difficult one last time. I'm still prepared to support you into Edinburgh, of course. I'll be making a dash south this season, and will be crossing through Burgundy. This will hopefully be temporary, lasting one or two seasons at most, and should not be construed as aggressive towards you, of course. Too bad that Italy figured out what I was up to. I was hoping for a season or two of disorder from him. -le Premier From dpb Wed Jul 24 10:19:57 2002 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:19:57 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Fall 1904, France to Austria Message-ID: <20020724141957.GB30032@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 483 Lines: 9 My condolences on your loss. Realizing that you have no chance of taking back Trieste, could I recommend that you attack Venice? There is an outside chance that you would take it, as I expect he will be moving west to meet me in the Piedmont, possibly with support, and he'll be expecting you to attack Trieste. (Which you might still do with your fleet, of course; but the Viennese army will almost certainly support Trieste, making a full assault there pointless.) -le Premier From dpb Wed Jul 24 10:27:50 2002 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:27:50 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Fall 1904, France moves Message-ID: <20020724142750.GC30032@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 692 Lines: 20 I think Mike Peil was either England or Austria. Eva might be Germany, although I have no idea why I think that. Anyway, here're my provisional moves for this season: F Cly S F Yor -> Edi F MAt -> NAf F WMed S F MAt -> Naf F GoL S F WMed A Mar -> Pie A Bre -> Gas A Bel -> Bur -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- "Hackers like to work on things that are cool. They will do boring, necessary work every now and then, but only after all the more interesting options have been exhausted---just look at how the Linux GUI environments consider themeable checkboxes to be at least as important as having a usable file selector." --Shawn Hargreaves From davids@imsa.edu Wed Jul 24 10:40:36 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g6OEeZQi011610 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:40:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id JAA01901 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:40:35 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01897 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:40:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g6OEeZb12554 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:40:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:40:35 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Fall 1904, Germany to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 2238 Lines: 45 Well done, and thank you! We accomplished both of my personal objectives last season, and now our fleets are in both Clyde and the Baltic. We must discuss who will take Edi this season. I have a few thoughts on the matter, but I will leave the final decision to you. Looking across Europe, at our long front with Italy and Russia, it seems that our biggest weakness is in a lack of armies on my part. Once Austria is defeated, I can expect at least five armies to shuffle towards my borders. I only have three to stop them, and I would like to use some of them to divest Russia of Sweden and Norway before he can move support North. That being said, it may serve our overall interests better if I took Edi and Swe this turn. This would reverse our fortunes, and put me one over you: as you've pointed out, you've had one more center than I since the beginning. Let me know what you think. I'm interested in hearing your thoughts, and you will have my support if you would rather take the build this season. I'm always curious about tactics. Do you mind if I offer a few thoughts? It seems that, with Austria not yet dead, Italy cannot move the army in Ven to Piedmont. It also seems that Italy would be horribly exposed if you got into Tyn, so he must support that fleet with one of his other fleets. Therefore, you may be able to land an army in Pied or NAf this season. If MAt convoys the Bre army to NAf, and you move Mar to Pied, one of those should succeed. Especially if you support those moves with your forward fleets. While it's true that Italy can then push you out of one of those forward positions (GoL and West), I think such a gain would only be temporary for Italy. You would retreat to Spa then retake the forward position easily, and you would have an army (or two) next to Italian centers. Anyhow, it's just a thought. Italy may try to block these moves, and it might turn out that your best move was to strike at Tyn. It's hard to read. But my money would be on Italy supporting Tyn this season. I just got your last note. Are you committed to supporting me into Edi this season, then? Then I will take Swe, and move Yor-Edi (killing England) and Nth-Nor (cutting possible support to Swe). From dwarf@imsa.edu Wed Jul 24 13:03:25 2002 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:03:25 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Re: Fall 1904, Germany to France Message-ID: <20020724170325.GE411@vanyel.cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 2723 Lines: 64 Quoth David Singleton: > We must discuss who will take Edi this season. I have a few thoughts on > the matter, but I will leave the final decision to you. Obviously, I would like to have the extra center, but I think you need it more; I will shortly have a solid front with good backup against Italy, but your potential front line is quite a bit longer. > I'm always curious about tactics. Do you mind if I offer a few thoughts? I'm always open for suggestions; I can study tactics for hours and still miss something. > It seems that, with Austria not yet dead, Italy cannot move the army in > Ven to Piedmont. I bet he does, though. And Austria can nearly be counted on to wage a last-minute attack to liberate Trieste, which will of course (sadly) fail. > It also seems that Italy would be horribly exposed if you got into > Tyn, so he must support that fleet with one of his other fleets. That, or use it to attack me. > Therefore, you may be able to land an army in Pied or NAf this season. There's a reasonable chance I'll get into the Piedmont, of course, but even if I bounce that's okay. As for North Africa, I set things up to convoy the Brest army in, yes, but it recently occurred to me that that would be a bad idea. The big disadvantage of fleets is that they can't move inland, but the Saharan mainland is irrelevant to us, and so we can effectively treat the northern African provinces as if they were high seas. In particular, by moving a fleet in there, I can use it to support my other fleets in the area, which an army would be powerless to do. So I think I'll keep my armies on the mainland, for now at least. > If MAt convoys the Bre army to NAf, and you move Mar to Pied, one of > those should succeed. One certainly hopes so. > Especially if you support those moves with your forward fleets. While > it's true that Italy can then push you out of one of those forward > positions (GoL and West), I think such a gain would only be temporary > for Italy. You would retreat to Spa then retake the forward position > easily, and you would have an army (or two) next to Italian centers. Yes, this concurs with my analyses. > Anyhow, it's just a thought. Italy may try to block these moves, and it > might turn out that your best move was to strike at Tyn. It's hard to > read. But my money would be on Italy supporting Tyn this season. I don't yet have the military support in the region to advance on the Tyrrhenian Sea without opening a hole in my front. > I just got your last note. Are you committed to supporting me into Edi > this season, then? Then I will take Swe, and move Yor-Edi (killing > England) and Nth-Nor (cutting possible support to Swe). Yes. -le Premier From davids@imsa.edu Fri Jul 26 10:11:28 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g6QEBRQi008896 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:11:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id JAA21575 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:11:27 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA21571 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:11:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g6QEBRI21028 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:11:27 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:11:27 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Fall 1904, Germany to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Content-Length: 1079 Lines: 21 Thank you for your support into Edi. The extra build will give me the firepower I need to secure our Northeastern front. Good luck this season. I reviewed your note, and your evaluation on the tactical situation in the Med is quite sound. I am sure that you've considered the possibility of Italy moving Tus-Piedmont with support from Venice. Combined with Tyr-GoL, that would put Italy in a strong position against you. I'm not sure if there is anything you would want to do to counter it (the only move that succeeds in countering it would leave you fairly vulnerable to other attacks). Again, moving WestMed-Tyr (with GoL support) looks attractive. Tyr-GoL can't cut support (because you can't cut support for an attack on the originating attack), and Italy would gain Piedmont to lose Tyr. Of course, it all comes down to guessing. Whatever Italy does, there will exist a move that will completely destroy him. And that move, if anticipated by Italy, is vulnerable to Italian attacks as well. The trouble is that you don't know what he'll do. Again, good luck. From davids@imsa.edu Fri Jul 26 10:39:10 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g6QEdAQi009588 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:39:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id JAA27593 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:39:09 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA27589 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:39:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g6QEd9w05253 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:39:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:39:09 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Fall 1904, Russia to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Content-Length: 738 Lines: 16 Well, I owe you an apology. I told Germany what you had asked of me last year, and nonetheless, he's chosen to mount an attack on me. I thought I could trust Germany, and I was wrong. Based on your present positioning, I assume you are not planning to attack that nation in the near future. I have to wonder if things would be different had I done as you asked last season. No matter. The short version is just that if you eventually do decide to betray Germany, and there is any way I can help, let me know. Whereas last time I just blew you off, this time I will almost certainly do what you ask, in a heartbeat. Sincerely, Nicholas II, Tsar of Russia From dpb Sun Jul 28 16:24:44 2002 Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 16:24:44 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: What's up? Message-ID: <20020728202444.GA30308@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 430 Lines: 11 What's the deal with builds/disbands not being posted yet? Are we still waiting on someone? And I saw your note about using ssh instead of telnet; I do use ssh, but can't get in right now. Are you actually able to get in? Is it relevant that pollux is down, since we're using email and the web to run the game? -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- Two wrongs are only the beginning. From davids@imsa.edu Sun Jul 28 20:07:31 2002 Received: from mail.imsa.edu (n1x6.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g6T07VQi022497 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 20:07:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 1x5.imsa.edu (1x5.imsa.edu [143.195.1.5]) by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3173A694CC for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 19:04:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by 1x5.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6T04ob12312 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 19:04:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: 1x5.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 19:04:50 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Re: What's up? In-Reply-To: <20020728202444.GA30308@cs.brown.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 614 Lines: 19 As least one player with builds has not logged in to their IMSA account since the switch. Thus, I haven't recevived their orders for Winter. We're still waiting on them. As to your connectivity, the system seems to be up and down. I'm not quite sure what's going on... D > What's the deal with builds/disbands not being posted yet? Are we still > waiting on someone? > > And I saw your note about using ssh instead of telnet; I do use ssh, but > can't get in right now. Are you actually able to get in? Is it > relevant that pollux is down, since we're using email and the web to run > the game? > > From dpb@cs.brown.edu Mon Jul 29 09:53:35 2002 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:53:35 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Re: What's up? Message-ID: <20020729135335.GA2364@cs.brown.edu> References: <20020728202444.GA30308@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 1067 Lines: 23 Quoth David Singleton: > As least one player with builds has not logged in to their IMSA account > since the switch. Thus, I haven't recevived their orders for Winter. > We're still waiting on them. Do you have any other contact info for that person? Because they might not even realise what's going on, that they need to download putty or whatever. Alternatively, you could make the announcement more prominent on the Dip page. > As to your connectivity, the system seems to be up and down. I'm not > quite sure what's going on... I realised that it was just that the ssh key had changed, and the way I was set up at the time didn't give me the error message. Easily fixed. Unlike, apparently, their hosing of the system. I love how this "transparent changeover" managed to really screw up every service that the alumni actually ever use. -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." --Albert Einstein From davids@imsa.edu Fri Jul 26 14:48:09 2002 Received: from staffmail.imsa.edu (castor.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g6QIm8Qi015685 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 14:48:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with X.500 id NAA31944 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 13:48:07 -0500 Received: from pollux.imsa.edu (IDENT:root@pollux.imsa.edu [143.195.1.4]) by staffmail.imsa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA31940 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 13:48:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by pollux.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g6QIm7Y27894 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 13:48:07 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 13:48:07 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Fall 1904, Italy to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 216 Lines: 8 Premier,     I'd still prefer to be fighting Turkey than you.  If you reconsider your naval assault, stab Germany and be done with this unprofitable attack, I won't have to spank you back to Brest. Duce Fortunata From dwarf@imsa.edu Wed Jul 31 19:16:19 2002 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:16:19 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Spring 1905, France to Italy Message-ID: <20020731231619.GA24306@cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 263 Lines: 9 > Premier, > > I'd still prefer to be fighting Turkey than you. If you reconsider > your naval assault, stab Germany and be done with this unprofitable > attack, I won't have to spank you back to Brest. All the way back to Brest, now? We'll see. -le Premier From dpb Wed Jul 31 19:25:20 2002 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:25:21 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Spring 1905, France moves Message-ID: <20020731232520.GB24306@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 468 Lines: 17 With that "spank" comment, I think Italy must be Neil or Joe. (Or Mike Peil, but like I said I think he was England or maybe Austria.) My orders for this season: A Mar -> Tus F GoL C A Mar -> Tus A Bur -> Mar A Gas S A Bur -> Mar F Cly -> NAt F WMed S F Gol F NAf S F WMed -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- "This experiment isn't going to be valid, but then, I don't think any of them ever are." --Sharon Goldwater From dwarf@imsa.edu Fri Aug 2 01:17:10 2002 Received: from mail.imsa.edu (n1x6.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g725H9Qi011499 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 01:17:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 1x5.imsa.edu (1x5.imsa.edu [143.195.1.5]) by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AF7B6920B for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 00:17:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from dwarf@localhost) by 1x5.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g725H9G26922 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 00:17:09 -0500 Resent-Message-Id: <200208020517.g725H9G26922@1x5.imsa.edu> Delivered-To: dwarf@imsa.edu Received: from 1x5.imsa.edu (1x5.imsa.edu [143.195.1.5]) by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 392546913F for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:27:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by 1x5.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UFS3U25854 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:28:03 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: 1x5.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:28:03 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Spring 1905, Italy to Everyone Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Resent-From: dwarf@imsa.edu Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 00:17:09 -0500 Resent-To: dpb@cs.brown.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 336 Lines: 6    Italy has been failed by every power with which she has allied herself.  Austrian inepitude allowed the Turk free access to the Med.  Turkish sabotage kept Austria alive past her day of reckoning.  And Russian lassitude has cost her any chance of pressing Germany.     Italy proposes to give France free access to the Mediteranean. From dwarf@imsa.edu Fri Aug 2 01:17:16 2002 Received: from mail.imsa.edu (n1x6.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g725HGQi011502 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 01:17:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 1x5.imsa.edu (1x5.imsa.edu [143.195.1.5]) by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 316C76920B for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 00:17:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from dwarf@localhost) by 1x5.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g725HGk26931 for dpb@cs.brown.edu; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 00:17:16 -0500 Resent-Message-Id: <200208020517.g725HGk26931@1x5.imsa.edu> Delivered-To: dwarf@imsa.edu Received: from 1x5.imsa.edu (1x5.imsa.edu [143.195.1.5]) by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B58F691B2 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:27:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by 1x5.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6VMRqG10093 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:27:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: 1x5.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:27:52 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Spring 1905, Germany to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-From: dwarf@imsa.edu Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 00:17:16 -0500 Resent-To: dpb@cs.brown.edu Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 1462 Lines: 29 Thank you for your support! Now that you've helped me into Edi, and after Russia's error in failing to retreat to Skag, there is nothing Russia can do to stop me from taking Nwy in the fall. The only thing I will need to do is take Nrg. I am assuming your movements in the Spring will include Cly-NAt. I am planning on moving into Tyr, which may help you take Pied in the Fall. I'm glad you didn't take my advice last season, and try for Tyn. Of course Italy protected it. I hope my analysis is not unwelcome -- as you said before, it may shed additional light on a situation. The Med is filled with Fleets this season. Italy is stronger in the North, and you are stronger in the South. If Italy really wanted the GoL, she could take it (and leave herself exposed). If you really wanted to take Tunis, you could (but you would leave yourself somewhat exposed). In my mind, however, you have the better option. If you did move GoL-Tyn, and cut support, then took Tun from West (which is the only move that ensures Tunis this season), you might not be overly exposed. Moving Gas-Spa and Cly-NAt will help contain the damage Italy could do: and you would have an Italian Center in Tunis that he couln't wrest from you in the Fall. And if Italy were foolish enough to kick you out of GoL, you would of course retreat to Tuscany. A more than fair trade. Anyway, I cannot help but blather about tactics. Ignore my suggestions if they are unwelcome. From dwarf@imsa.edu Fri Aug 2 01:51:49 2002 Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 01:51:49 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Spring 1905, France to Germany Message-ID: <20020802055149.GE797@cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 1322 Lines: 30 > Thank you for your support! Now that you've helped me into Edi, and after > Russia's error in failing to retreat to Skag, there is nothing Russia can > do to stop me from taking Nwy in the fall. Slick. Good work. > The only thing I will need to do is take Nrg. I am assuming your > movements in the Spring will include Cly-NAt. I am planning on moving > into Tyr, which may help you take Pied in the Fall. Truth be told, I was hoping to get Austria's support there, and then I'd help him prop himself up into a two- or three-center puppet state while I swept around to the south. That requires him to hang on for one more season, of course. Much depends on what the heck Italy's "propose to give France access to the mediterranean" meant. Is he quitting? Was it a bluff to get me off my guard? I can only play as if he hadn't sent it, but I wish I knew what it meant. > And if Italy were foolish enough to kick you out of GoL, you would of > course retreat to Tuscany. A more than fair trade. This is an excellent point, and one I failed to consider. > Anyway, I cannot help but blather about tactics. Ignore my suggestions if > they are unwelcome. Never unwelcome ; as with the GoL-Tuscany comment you made above, sometimes they will indeed bring to light something I hadn't thought of. -le Premier From dpb Fri Aug 2 02:01:31 2002 Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 02:01:31 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Cc: drsingle@email.unc.edu Subject: Dip: test message Message-ID: <20020802060131.GA1196@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 726 Lines: 14 This is a test message to see if mail's going through. I just realised today that you might be sending stuff via dwarf@imsa.edu (which forwards here), and checked that, to find Italy and Germany's messages awaiting me. I just mailed off a message to Germany, via davids@imsa.edu; let me know if you didn't receive that and I'll resend it to the UNC account. You might want to remind people to check their imsa mail, in case other people are sitting there assuming that no mail has been sent, just because the *&^$ sysadmins broke email forwarding along with everything else. -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- "Sleep is for those who don't know how to tango." --Jonathan Sadler From davids@imsa.edu Fri Aug 2 09:43:49 2002 Received: from mail.imsa.edu (n1x6.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g72DhmQi018191 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 09:43:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 1x5.imsa.edu (1x5.imsa.edu [143.195.1.5]) by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23FD169157 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:43:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by 1x5.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g72Dhms00301 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:43:48 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: 1x5.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:43:48 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Re: Dip: test message In-Reply-To: <20020802060131.GA1196@cs.brown.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Content-Length: 759 Lines: 21 > This is a test message to see if mail's going through. I just realised > today that you might be sending stuff via dwarf@imsa.edu (which forwards > here), and checked that, to find Italy and Germany's messages awaiting > me. I just mailed off a message to Germany, via davids@imsa.edu; let me > know if you didn't receive that and I'll resend it to the UNC account. I received this in both of my accounts. Yes, I am sending mail to dwarf@imsa.edu. If you have another preference, please let me know. > > You might want to remind people to check their imsa mail, in case other > people are sitting there assuming that no mail has been sent, just > because the *&^$ sysadmins broke email forwarding along with everything > else. > > Good idea. D From dpb Tue Aug 6 03:04:33 2002 Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 03:04:33 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Fall 1905, France to Turkey Message-ID: <20020806070433.GA25640@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 313 Lines: 7 Greetings ! The French Republic would like to formally initiate diplomatic contact with the Sultan ; it appears that we shall shortly be neighbors, possibly as soon as year's end. Your intentions toward the moribund Dual Monarchy are apparent, but we wonder what exactly your plans are beyond that. -le Premier From dpb Tue Aug 6 03:11:49 2002 Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 03:11:49 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Fall 1905, France to Italy Message-ID: <20020806071149.GA25682@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 478 Lines: 9 A little piece of totally unsolicited advice : with the Turk obviously poised to take Trieste, the lonely Austrian army is likely to attack Venice. To defer this outcome (and to prevent the Turk having yet another unit on your border to match the one currently menacing Naples), you might be well-advised to promise Austria your support so long as he holds steady in Trieste. He may or may not listen, of course, but the alternative is... problematic... for you. -le Premier From dpb Tue Aug 6 02:53:18 2002 Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 02:53:18 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Fall 1905, France moves Message-ID: <20020806065318.GA25535@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 470 Lines: 18 I haven't gotten any communications this season. If that's not correct, there's a problem. F NAt -> MAt A Gas -> Spa A Bur S A Mar A Mar S A Bur F Tus -> Rom F WMed -> Tun F NAf S F WMed -> Tun Oh, and I gather that one or both of Kevin and Mike McLawhorn are in the game based on recent posts in =shiggy. Dunno where that puts the rest of my guesses. :) -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- Microbiology Lab: Staph Only! From davids@imsa.edu Tue Aug 6 09:19:58 2002 Received: from mail.imsa.edu (n1x6.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g76DJvQi005868 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 09:19:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 1x5.imsa.edu (1x5.imsa.edu [143.195.1.5]) by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 917CE69115 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 08:19:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by 1x5.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g76DJvN02932 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 08:19:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: 1x5.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 08:19:57 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Re: Fall 1905, France moves In-Reply-To: <20020806065318.GA25535@cs.brown.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Content-Length: 226 Lines: 11 > I haven't gotten any communications this season. If that's not correct, > there's a problem. There isn't a problem. :) At least, unless emails from other people aren't getting to me. Although, some obviously are... D From dpb Wed Aug 7 15:22:39 2002 Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 15:22:39 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Winter 1905, France builds Message-ID: <20020807192239.GA2767@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 272 Lines: 7 Ugh, I hate civil disorder. Anyway, I'll build an army in each of Paris and Brest. -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on. From dpb Wed Aug 7 20:24:07 2002 Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 20:24:07 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Dip whining Message-ID: <20020808002407.GA4161@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 218 Lines: 6 AAgh, the suspense is killing me. Could you tell whoever we're waiting for to get a move on? -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- When all else fails, read the instructions. From davids@imsa.edu Thu Aug 8 10:59:47 2002 Received: from mail.imsa.edu (n1x6.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g78ExlQi028950 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:59:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 1x5.imsa.edu (1x5.imsa.edu [143.195.1.5]) by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9568569248 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 09:59:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by 1x5.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g78ExkX03042 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 09:59:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: 1x5.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 09:59:46 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Re: Dip whining In-Reply-To: <20020808002407.GA4161@cs.brown.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Content-Length: 265 Lines: 11 > AAgh, the suspense is killing me. Could you tell whoever we're waiting > for to get a move on? It was...um...England, I think. NO. WAIT. Texas. I'm pretty sure it was Texas....Maybe...France. No? Oh crap! You're France! Results are posted now. :) D From dpb Thu Aug 8 11:25:41 2002 Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:25:41 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Spring 1906, France moves Message-ID: <20020808152541.GA8254@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 476 Lines: 17 Heavens, 9 is a lot of units. I don't think I've ever done this well in a dip game before. We'll see how long it lasts.... A Gas -> Spa A Mar -> Pie A Bre -> NAf F MAt C A Bre -> NAf F NAf -> WMed F Tun S F NAf -> WMed F Rom -> Nap A Bur -> Mar A Par -> Gas -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- Isn't it interesting that the same people who laugh at science fiction listen to weather forecasts and economists? --Kelvin Throop III From dpb Thu Aug 8 11:28:36 2002 Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:28:36 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Spring 1906, France to Austria Message-ID: <20020808152836.GA8388@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 358 Lines: 9 With a little bit of clever diplomacy, you should be able to get *both* Russia and Germany to support you into Vienna - Germany will want Russia to not make it in (thus supporting you to the bounce) and Russia will want to free up a unit to attack Germany. Both probably wouldn't mind a buffer zone to solidify their front line. Best of luck! -le Premier From dpb Thu Aug 8 11:37:34 2002 Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:37:34 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Spring 1906, France to Germany Message-ID: <20020808153734.GA8415@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 837 Lines: 17 Cheers ! We're even again. Things continue to go well for both of us - you have an unbroken front line with Russia that you can slowly inch forward, and I have a 3-to-1 advantage against Italy (though due to current troop allocations it may take a couple of seasons to really set up his defeat). Since Silesia can be taken with just your Berlin and Munich units, I wonder if you might not be well-served to arrange to support Austria into Vienna this season. It would give you a buffer against Russia and have the advantage of being relatively unexpected. Elsewhere on your front your moves seem fairly straightforward. As for me, I'm still in shock that Italy left Rome undefended. Unbelievable. I don't have the supply lines to actually keep it, but it should keep him occupied while I set up the rest of the front. -le Premier From davids@imsa.edu Thu Aug 8 11:14:46 2002 Received: from mail.imsa.edu (n1x6.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g78FEkQi029257 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:14:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) id 673A96916A; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:14:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: dwarf@imsa.edu Received: from 1x5.imsa.edu (1x5.imsa.edu [143.195.1.5]) by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B58069227 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:14:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by 1x5.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g78FEko09795 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:14:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: 1x5.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:14:46 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Spring 1906, Russia to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 288 Lines: 7 To be blunt, that's quite a lot of armies you have there, and to have even a chance of breaking the front he has with me, Germany can't police his western borders at all. In a season or two, though, he's very likely to have enough armies to deal with you more effectively. That is all. From dwarf@imsa.edu Thu Aug 8 11:46:12 2002 Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:46:12 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Spring 1906, France to Russia Message-ID: <20020808154612.GA8493@cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 359 Lines: 8 > To be blunt, that's quite a lot of armies you have there, and to have even > a chance of breaking the front he has with me, Germany can't police his > western borders at all. In a season or two, though, he's very likely to > have enough armies to deal with you more effectively. Sweet of you to notice, but I think I'll be busy down in Italy. -le Premier From dpb Thu Aug 8 11:48:08 2002 Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:48:08 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Spring 1906, France to Turkey Message-ID: <20020808154808.GB8493@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 216 Lines: 5 Our condolences on your recent domestic disputes, but the Republic of France is still interested in hearing your plans for the future, and whether we can be of any assistance, now that we are neighbors. -le Premier From davids@imsa.edu Fri Aug 9 15:56:17 2002 Received: from mail.imsa.edu (n1x6.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g79JuCQi028842 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 15:56:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) id 8632C690F4; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:56:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: dwarf@imsa.edu Received: from 1x5.imsa.edu (1x5.imsa.edu [143.195.1.5]) by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B6DB690CA for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:56:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by 1x5.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g79Ju7H28497 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:56:07 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: 1x5.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:56:07 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: From GM Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 60 Lines: 5 Is this the account you're using for email these days? D From dwarf@imsa.edu Fri Aug 9 19:37:26 2002 Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 19:37:26 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Re: From GM Message-ID: <20020809233726.GB16808@cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 314 Lines: 10 Quoth David Singleton: > Is this the account you're using for email these days? Hey, email forwarding is working again! Yay! So yes, either address will go to the same place. -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- Santa's elves are just a bunch of subordinate Clauses. From davids@imsa.edu Fri Aug 9 15:41:46 2002 Received: from mail.imsa.edu (n1x6.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g79JffQi028544 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 15:41:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) id EF2D1690F4; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:41:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: dwarf@imsa.edu Received: from 1x5.imsa.edu (1x5.imsa.edu [143.195.1.5]) by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F3F690EB for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:41:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by 1x5.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g79Jfch20173 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:41:38 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: 1x5.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:41:38 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Spring 1906, Turkey to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 275 Lines: 9 Dear Premier, What are your attitudes toward Italy? Sincerely, Sultan Abdul Hamid Khan II bin Abdul Majir Khan From dwarf@imsa.edu Fri Aug 9 19:39:34 2002 Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 19:39:34 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Spring 1906, France to Turkey Message-ID: <20020809233934.GC16808@cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 109 Lines: 5 > What are your attitudes toward Italy? Well, I intend to obliterate it. How about you ? -le Premier From davids@imsa.edu Mon Aug 12 14:44:27 2002 Received: from mail.imsa.edu (n1x6.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g7CIiRQi022724 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 14:44:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) id 742BB69236; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 13:44:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: dwarf@imsa.edu Received: from 1x5.imsa.edu (1x5.imsa.edu [143.195.1.5]) by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 687A1691D1 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 13:44:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by 1x5.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7CIiQL07437 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 13:44:26 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: 1x5.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 13:44:26 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Spring 1906, Germany to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Content-Length: 584 Lines: 16 Congratulations indeed! Things are going well for us. You have truly broken the back of Italy, and my progress in the North, while slow, will continue. I've written Austria concerning my army in Bohemia, but he has yet to reply. I will be submitting a provisional set of moves, and change them if he does get back to me. Your position vis-a-vis Italy is the most interesting thing I've seen on our side of the World thus far. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out. Certainly you should be able to take Piedmont, but everything else is up in the air. Good luck! From davids@imsa.edu Mon Aug 12 15:40:52 2002 Received: from mail.imsa.edu (n1x6.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g7CJeoQi023941 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 15:40:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) id 1390269237; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 14:40:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: dwarf@imsa.edu Received: from 1x5.imsa.edu (1x5.imsa.edu [143.195.1.5]) by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08FF069229 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 14:40:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by 1x5.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7CJeov10927 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 14:40:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: 1x5.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 14:40:50 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Spring 1906, Turkey to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 293 Lines: 9 Premier, I would be glad to assist you in such an obliteration, since Italy has now made itself hostile unto us. How should we do it, then, you and I? Sincerely, Hamid From dwarf@imsa.edu Mon Aug 12 16:35:03 2002 Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 16:35:03 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Spring 1906, France to Turkey Message-ID: <20020812203503.GC7517@cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 551 Lines: 14 > I would be glad to assist you in such an obliteration, since Italy > has now made itself hostile unto us. How should we do it, then, you and > I? Well, for now I would guess that Italy is going to try to take Rome back ; such a maneuver would probably involve Naples. So it'd be nice if you'd move in to Naples, with the added benefit for you that Italy might choose to attack Rome *from* Naples, which would leave it open for you to walk in. Let me know if this is what you plan to do - it will change my orders slightly. -le Premier From dpb Tue Aug 13 22:24:37 2002 Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 22:24:37 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Fall 1906, France to Germany Message-ID: <20020814022437.GK7517@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 333 Lines: 7 Beautiful setup outside St. Petersburg ! I'm just writing to let you know that I'm considering moving into Tyrolia next season to support my bid for the Italian peninsula. That's not a problem, is it ? Obviously, I would avoid Burgundy for the duration so as not to make your Defense Minister too nervous about Munich. -le Premier From dpb Tue Aug 13 22:36:41 2002 Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 22:36:41 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Fall 1906, France moves Message-ID: <20020814023641.GL7517@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 377 Lines: 17 A Pie -> Tyr A Mar -> Pie A Gas -> Mar A Spa H F MAt -> WMed F WMed -> GoL F Tus -> Tyn A NAf S F Tun F Tun S F Tus -> Tyn -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- "We've never been on Saturday Night Live, but we have been on Good Morning America which is like Saturday Night Live only it happens in the morning." --John Flansburgh From davids@imsa.edu Wed Aug 14 11:50:00 2002 Received: from mail.imsa.edu (n1x6.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g7EFnqQi010049 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:49:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) id 18F526915C; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 10:49:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: dwarf@imsa.edu Received: from 1x5.imsa.edu (1x5.imsa.edu [143.195.1.5]) by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E006915E for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 10:49:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by 1x5.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7EFnnc22250 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 10:49:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: 1x5.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 10:49:49 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Fall 1906, Germany to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Content-Length: 86 Lines: 4 Sounds great! I'll support you into Tyr (what else is Mun going to do this turn?). From davids@imsa.edu Wed Aug 14 16:21:17 2002 Received: from mail.imsa.edu (n1x6.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g7EKLHQi016635 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 16:21:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) id 02D7969174; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 15:21:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: dwarf@imsa.edu Received: from 1x5.imsa.edu (1x5.imsa.edu [143.195.1.5]) by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA94869173 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 15:21:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by 1x5.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7EKLHO01475 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 15:21:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: 1x5.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 15:21:17 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Fall 1906, Turkey to Russia/France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 334 Lines: 9 Dear Sirs, It would appear (upon further consultation -- I was not working with good reconaissance at the moment) that Italy and Austria are both not long for this world. I think that getting rid of threats such as these nations would be beneficial long-term. Hamid From dwarf@imsa.edu Wed Aug 14 18:13:29 2002 Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 18:13:29 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Fall 1906, France to Turkey Message-ID: <20020814221329.GY7517@cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 729 Lines: 15 > It would appear (upon further consultation -- I was not working > with good reconaissance at the moment) that Italy and Austria are both not > long for this world. I think that getting rid of threats such as these > nations would be beneficial long-term. If you support my Piedmont army into Venice this season, I'll support you into Naples as soon as I have a fleet in the Tyrrhenian Sea (most likely this Spring, but possibly Fall if the Italian is *insane* and moves one of his fleets there sooner). If you do intend to lend me this support, please advise soon, as I will otherwise not be attacking Venice - pointless without support, no ? - and I will need to adjust my military orders accordingly. -le Premier From dpb Mon Aug 19 00:11:54 2002 Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 00:11:55 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Spring 1907, France to Austria Message-ID: <20020819041154.GO7517@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 822 Lines: 15 Well, as we indicated several seasons ago, we have finally made it to your border (though it took longer than expected !) Unfortunately, we still have not taken Venice, which is a priority. Once in Venice, we would be happy to support your army into Trieste - we will not lie, this will serve us well as a buffer between us and Russia. Also, it will decrease the length of our front with Turkey. In the meantime, can we suggest - or request - that you attack Trieste this season ? I fear that the Turk has allied with Italy and will support his unit in Venice, making my own attack fail. It is worth noting that this would not (probably) tip off the other powers to our alliance, since a random attack on Trieste would not be entirely out of character. (Blunt, for which we apologize, but there it is.) -le Premier From dpb Mon Aug 19 00:18:29 2002 Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 00:18:29 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Spring 1907, France to Turkey Message-ID: <20020819041829.GP7517@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 239 Lines: 6 Our intelligence indicates that Italy was expecting your support against the Republic in the recent skirmishes. This would seem to be in contradiction of your avowed desire for the obliteration of Italy. What is the dilly ? -le Premier From dpb Mon Aug 19 00:03:58 2002 Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 00:03:58 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Spring 1907, France moves Message-ID: <20020819040358.GN7517@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 721 Lines: 22 A Pie -> Ven A Tyr S A Pie -> Ven A Mar -> Pie A Spa -> Tus F GoL C A Spa -> Tus F Tun -> Ion F Tyn S F Tun -> Ion F WMed S F Tyn A NAf -> Tun Also, I have a rules clarification question. Let's say that I do my orders as above (particularly, Tunis attacking the Ionian with support from the Tyrrhenian), and the alliance has Naples attack the Tyrrhenian with support from the Ionian. This is a bounce, right? Because you calculate support cuts before you calculate invasion successes? -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- Every new technology carries with it an opportunity to invent a new crime. --Laurence A. Urgenson From davids@imsa.edu Mon Aug 19 09:01:39 2002 Received: from mail.imsa.edu (n1x6.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g7JD1cQi023352 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 09:01:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 1x5.imsa.edu (1x5.imsa.edu [143.195.1.5]) by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E926911D for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 08:01:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by 1x5.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7JD1cm07878 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 08:01:38 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: 1x5.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 08:01:38 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Re: Spring 1907, France moves In-Reply-To: <20020819040358.GN7517@cs.brown.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Content-Length: 462 Lines: 14 > F Tun -> Ion > F Tyn S F Tun -> Ion > > Also, I have a rules clarification question. Let's say that I do my > orders as above (particularly, Tunis attacking the Ionian with support > from the Tyrrhenian), and the alliance has Naples attack the Tyrrhenian > with support from the Ionian. This is a bounce, right? Because you > calculate support cuts before you calculate invasion successes? Well, it's all at the same time, but, yeah...it's a bounce. D From davids@imsa.edu Mon Aug 19 16:07:48 2002 Received: from mail.imsa.edu (n1x6.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g7JK7eQi002850 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 16:07:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) id C34F7691E7; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 15:07:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: dwarf@imsa.edu Received: from 1x5.imsa.edu (1x5.imsa.edu [143.195.1.5]) by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B4B6911D for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 15:07:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by 1x5.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7JK7UA01848 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 15:07:30 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: 1x5.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 15:07:30 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Spring 1907, Turkey to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Content-Length: 403 Lines: 10 Premier, His movements would imply that I was telling il Duce the truth about aiding his assistance. I was not, and while I am not happy that the orders I thought I had issued reached any of my troops, I can safely say that I was not going to support any of his movements, nor did I expect any support on my behalf. Sultan Abdul Hamid Khan II From dpb Tue Aug 20 14:35:16 2002 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 14:35:16 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Spring 1907, French move finality Message-ID: <20020820183516.GY7517@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 492 Lines: 9 I'm not going to change the orders unless I receive more diplomatic correspondence. I.e. if everyone else says "FINAL" without sending me anything, deem me to have said FINAL as well. (And I'm not sending any correspondence of my own, again unless someone sends some to me.) -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- "There is hopeful symbolism in the fact that flags do not wave in a vacuum." --Arthur C. Clarke From dpb Tue Aug 20 22:40:04 2002 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 22:40:04 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Fall 1907, France to Germany Message-ID: <20020821024004.GB7517@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 344 Lines: 9 Wow, look at you - 11 centers in sight for this winter, and nothing Russia can do to stop you ! Make sure not to let the Swedish fleet bite you on the St. Petersburg attack, though. Really thought Turkey was doing a little alliance with Italy. Oh well, this is going to be a pain in the ass, but I should be able to handle him. -le Premier From davids@imsa.edu Tue Aug 20 22:50:20 2002 Received: from mail.imsa.edu (n1x6.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g7L2oJQi004746 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 22:50:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 1x5.imsa.edu (1x5.imsa.edu [143.195.1.5]) by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC5D69130 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 21:50:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by 1x5.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7L2oIU09672 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 21:50:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: 1x5.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 21:50:18 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Re: Fall 1907, France to Germany In-Reply-To: <20020821024004.GB7517@cs.brown.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 456 Lines: 16 Just so I don't forget to send this, drop me a reminder after I get the retreats up. D > Wow, look at you - 11 centers in sight for this winter, and nothing > Russia can do to stop you ! Make sure not to let the Swedish fleet bite > you on the St. Petersburg attack, though. > > Really thought Turkey was doing a little alliance with Italy. Oh well, > this is going to be a pain in the ass, but I should be able to handle > him. > > -le Premier > From dpb@cs.brown.edu Tue Aug 20 23:10:33 2002 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 23:10:33 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Re: Fall 1907, France to Germany Message-ID: <20020821031033.GC7517@cs.brown.edu> References: <20020821024004.GB7517@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 340 Lines: 10 Quoth David Singleton: > Just so I don't forget to send this, drop me a reminder after I get the > retreats up. Yeah, sorry about that; I realised after I sent it that we needed to wait for the retreats. :P -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- Space is curved. That or my car pulls to the left. From davids@imsa.edu Thu Aug 22 10:10:14 2002 Received: from mail.imsa.edu (n1x6.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g7MEAEQi010828 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:10:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) id 255FC69141; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 09:10:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: dwarf@imsa.edu Received: from 1x5.imsa.edu (1x5.imsa.edu [143.195.1.5]) by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18ED469127 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 09:10:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by 1x5.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7MEAD602855 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 09:10:13 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: 1x5.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 09:10:13 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Fall 1906, Germany to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 701 Lines: 12 You're not doing to shabby yourself. You have an opportunity to eliminate Italy this season. You would need to give up the Ionian to the Turk, but it can be done. Another possibility is to only take Rome, and do something clever with the Ionian fleet (EastMed or Adr). This eventually leads to the destruction of Italy, but it will take a little while longer. The benefit of delaying Italy's destruction is that you can gain an upper hand against the Turk, either in the North or the South. I've looked at the situation vis-a-vis StP, and I decided to take the easy route and move such that I take StP and Sweden regardless of Russia's moves. I'd rather not monkey around with trying to guess. From dwarf@imsa.edu Thu Aug 22 10:58:12 2002 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:58:12 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Fall 1907, France to Germany Message-ID: <20020822145812.GM7517@cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 1309 Lines: 24 > You're not doing to shabby yourself. You have an opportunity to eliminate > Italy this season. You would need to give up the Ionian to the Turk, but > it can be done. Another possibility is to only take Rome, and do > something clever with the Ionian fleet (EastMed or Adr). This eventually > leads to the destruction of Italy, but it will take a little while longer. > The benefit of delaying Italy's destruction is that you can gain an upper > hand against the Turk, either in the North or the South. Huh. I'd thought up this elaborate other set of moves, but I had totally missed the destroy-Italy strategy. It's certainly the more sure path (definitely taking two centers, being up one). The other involves me definitely taking Rome (back) and only *maybe* taking Trieste ; and I might lose Ionian anyway. Hmmm. This was easier when I was assuming Turkey would retreat to the Adriatic. > I've looked at the situation vis-a-vis StP, and I decided to take the easy > route and move such that I take StP and Sweden regardless of Russia's > moves. I'd rather not monkey around with trying to guess. Certainly. My only thought was to be careful not to let the Swedish fleet cut your supports on the assault on St. Petersburg. Oh, and don't let him take Norway back, of course. :) -le Premier From dpb Thu Aug 22 10:59:51 2002 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:59:51 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Fall 1907, France to Austria Message-ID: <20020822145951.GN7517@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 120 Lines: 4 Silly ! I would have supported you back into Vienna. Oh well, good work hanging on as long as you did.... -le Premier From davids@imsa.edu Thu Aug 22 11:39:09 2002 Received: from mail.imsa.edu (n1x6.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g7MFd8Qi012842 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 11:39:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) id E7A6069173; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:39:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: dwarf@imsa.edu Received: from 1x5.imsa.edu (1x5.imsa.edu [143.195.1.5]) by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB94469166 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:39:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by 1x5.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7MFd7v26460 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:39:07 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: 1x5.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:39:07 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Fall 1907, Germany to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 1514 Lines: 30 One thing you should keep in mind, while you're thinking about destroying Italy, is next season and your impending conflict with the Turk. He's going to get at least one build, and will probably select a fleet to put him on par with you. He will also almost certainly move Ser-Tri with support from Vie (and possibly Bud as well). By retreating to Gre, Turkey is probably setting himself up to move Gre or Aeg - Ion. If he supports this with his other two fleets, you can't stop it. If you do destroy Italy, you might want to think about setting yourself up to take back Ion next year. The best way to do that is to move West - Tun (you were right in that an army in Africa is less useful, especially once you have Tunis). Regarding builds, I may be forced to build another fleet. I can't destroy Russia's fleet outright, and if he keeps it I will need to pin it down. If he decides to retreat to the Baltic, I will probably end up building a fleet. I'll use that fleet to destroy his the following year. This is all moot if he decides instead to keep four armies, instead of three armies and a fleet. (Or maybe our enemies will decide to move Bud-Tri, and give the center to Russia. Who knows.) I'm assuming you would be less threatened if I build the fleet in Berlin, and my new army in Kiel. Or does it matter to you? Doing it the other way around would put the army closer to the front line. Let me know. Obviously I'd feel threatened by a build in Bre. You weren't planning one, were you? From dwarf@imsa.edu Thu Aug 22 12:22:38 2002 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 12:22:38 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Fall 1907, France to Germany Message-ID: <20020822162238.GA3671@cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 2994 Lines: 58 > One thing you should keep in mind, while you're thinking about destroying > Italy, is next season and your impending conflict with the Turk. He's > going to get at least one build, and will probably select a fleet to put > him on par with you. He will also almost certainly move Ser-Tri with > support from Vie (and possibly Bud as well). By retreating to Gre, Turkey > is probably setting himself up to move Gre or Aeg - Ion. If he supports > this with his other two fleets, you can't stop it. All this concurs with my observations. > If you do destroy Italy, you might want to think about setting yourself up > to take back Ion next year. The best way to do that is to move West - > Tun (you were right in that an army in Africa is less useful, especially > once you have Tunis). Yes, I was thinking that. Under the "other" plan, I was actually convoying the army over to Italy, but that's going to have to wait. The more I look at it, the better destroying Italy seems to be. (The Swiss seem to agree.) > [...fleets...] > I'm assuming you would be less threatened if I build the fleet in Berlin, > and my new army in Kiel. Or does it matter to you? Doing it the other > way around would put the army closer to the front line. Let me know. I would certainly prefer if the fleet went in Berlin ; if it were critical for you that it go the other way, I'd accept that, but it looks like you have Russia pretty well wrapped up in any case. Actually... it looks like you won't need a fleet at all. His three retreat options will be Skagerrak (maybe), Baltic, and Finland. In Finland, he'll be surrounded by your fleets in Nwy and Bot and your armies in Swe and StP. In Baltic, he'll be surrounded by your fleet in Bot and your armies in Swe, Pru, and Ber (and your Kiel army can at least bounce him from taking Denmark) ; he'd border his own army in Livonia, but if he went *there* you'd be able to bring the Nwy fleet around to stamp him out. Finally, if he were in Skagerrak - this is the tricky one - he'd be bordered by your fleet in Nwy and your army in Swe, with Den and Nth open. Then the Nwy fleet goes to Nth, F Bar to Nwy, A Kie to Den, and Bot and Swe rotate via Finland. This last rotation may take two season if he thinks to attack Sweden, but it will work; and then with a *fleet* in Sweden you will be able to squish him out by the third season at the very latest. So you *can* build two armies. That should help with your conquest of the Russian motherland. > Obviously I'd feel threatened by a build in Bre. You weren't planning > one, were you? Well, my second build was going to be an army, and I *was* thinking of putting it in Brest, so as to be less threatening to you ! If it makes you feel more comfortable I'll put it in Paris ; in terms of getting it to the front line, it'll go through Gascony either way. Frankly (ha), I'm baffled and curious as to why an army in Brest would be more threatening to you than one in Paris.... -le Premier From davids@imsa.edu Fri Aug 23 13:25:12 2002 Received: from mail.imsa.edu (n1x6.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g7NHPC7a021563 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 13:25:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) id 8889A69179; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:25:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: dwarf@imsa.edu Received: from 1x5.imsa.edu (1x5.imsa.edu [143.195.1.5]) by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D7D16916A for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:25:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by 1x5.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7NHPBl17405 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:25:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: 1x5.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:25:11 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Orders? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 93 Lines: 6 You're usually the first one in. Have you decided on your orders yet for this season? D From dwarf@imsa.edu Fri Aug 23 15:10:37 2002 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 15:10:37 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Re: Orders? Message-ID: <20020823191037.GJ3671@cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 683 Lines: 28 Quoth David Singleton: > You're usually the first one in. Have you decided on your orders yet for > this season? THANK YOU for reminding me. I just did my thesis proposal (passed!), and I had totally forgotten about them. I *might* have remembered by 10 tonight. ;) A Tyr -> Tri A Ven -> Rom A Tus S A Ven -> Rom A Pie -> Ven F Ion -> Nap F Tyn S F Ion -> Nap A Tun -> NAf F WMed -> Tun F GoL -> WMed Those are final, again unless someone sends me some last-minute communication. -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- "They give a flurry of beta explanations, searching for one that will hold up." --John Lederer, re Microsoft From dpb Fri Aug 23 23:35:38 2002 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 23:35:38 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Winter 1907, France builds Message-ID: <20020824033538.GA16242@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 266 Lines: 7 Fleet in Marseilles, Army in Paris. -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- Substitute "damn" every time you're inclined to write "very"; your editor will delete it and the writing will be just as it should be. --Mark Twain From davids@imsa.edu Sun Aug 25 22:30:54 2002 Received: from mail.imsa.edu (n1x6.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g7Q2Us7a007845 for ; Sun, 25 Aug 2002 22:30:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) id DD1FA690FA; Sun, 25 Aug 2002 21:30:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: dwarf@imsa.edu Received: from 1x5.imsa.edu (1x5.imsa.edu [143.195.1.5]) by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0B45690EB for ; Sun, 25 Aug 2002 21:30:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by 1x5.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7Q2Ur526316 for ; Sun, 25 Aug 2002 21:30:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: 1x5.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 21:30:53 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Spring 1908, Germany to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 1926 Lines: 39 Congratulations on a well executed year! We're both much better for our gains. Turkey's slip up in the Med gives you Ion this year, so long as your three forward fleets work together to force Tyn or Tun in. Turkey is a wildcard, and I think I should give up trying to predict what he will do. One possibility, though, is that he will move all four of his fleets into positions bordering Ion. That way he may be able to take it in the Fall. Who knows, though. His motives are a mystery to me. I thought about moving Mun-Boh last year, but decided against it. That may have been a mistake. Let me tell you my thinking, at least: Some would consider the center of the continent to be the strongest position to hold. Like in chess, many feel they cannot fail if they hold the center. This blind reasoning is very susceptible to a flanking attack. The hope is that our enemies will struggle to gain the center, and we will push around the sides and finish them off. The latest Swiss missive seems to indicate that even they feel we must first fight for "northern Austria" before gaining any real ground. So, by leaving Bohemia open, I am hoping to lure Russia into moving Gal-Boh. This move may weaken Russian defenses such that I can take Moscow this season. He may reason that my main push will be for Boh, not Mos. Anyhow, I am thinking that we should move into Boh this season with at least a unit and one support. Is your Tyr army available, or did you want to try for Tri? Let me know. I notice that your armies are tied up on the Italian peninsula. If you'd like to move them towards a forward position, by way of moving Tyr-Boh this season, that is fine. Just let me know. I noticed that you built in Par rather than Bre. After our discussion last season over builds, this surprised me. I assume that you will not be moving into Bur this season. I trust you, of course, but we need to be clear. From dwarf@imsa.edu Mon Aug 26 09:26:57 2002 Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 09:26:57 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Spring 1908, France to Germany Message-ID: <20020826132657.GN3671@cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 2712 Lines: 52 > Turkey's slip up in the Med gives you Ion this year, so long as your three > forward fleets work together to force Tyn or Tun in. Turkey is a > wildcard, and I think I should give up trying to predict what he will do. > One possibility, though, is that he will move all four of his fleets into > positions bordering Ion. That way he may be able to take it in the Fall. > Who knows, though. His motives are a mystery to me. I've been thinking about this. Yes, I could take Ion next season, but that would involve no forward movement elsewhere in my line ; and he could still take it back in the fall, putting me back exactly where I am now. A position is only advantageous if you can hold it. As such, I was thinking of mostly ignoring Ionian this year (maybe sending one unit in), with a view to improving my position elsewhere. I'm sure the Swiss will get their panties in a bunch over what a moron I'm being, but I really feel that they've had quite enough influence on this game already, don't you think? > [...Bohemia...] > Anyhow, I am thinking that we should move into Boh this season with at > least a unit and one support. Is your Tyr army available, or did you want > to try for Tri? Let me know. I notice that your armies are tied up on > the Italian peninsula. If you'd like to move them towards a forward > position, by way of moving Tyr-Boh this season, that is fine. Just let me > know. I would be surprised if Russia or Turkey tries for Bohemia, because in both cases it would stretch their line rather thin (drastically so for Russia). I had thought of moving there myself, just as you suggest, to improve my position vis-a-vis the Austrian centers. It is, in fact, the only place I could possibly move forward this season, except for Ion which I've discussed above. For yourself, if Russia tries anything funny, you have Moscow easily, and he should know that. In fact, on the assumption that he will be busy defending Moscow, you should be able to take Galicia and from there the rest of the dying Czar's territory. Of course, if he doesn't defend Moscow with all his might, that wouldn't be the best move. C'est la guerre. > I noticed that you built in Par rather than Bre. After our discussion > last season over builds, this surprised me. I assume that you will not be > moving into Bur this season. I trust you, of course, but we need to be > clear. I am so sorry for the mix-up there. I failed to consult my copies of our diplomatic communiques before sending out my construction orders, and I misremembered the conclusion we had reached. In any case (now having consulted them), I still intend to move that unit out by way of Gascony, of course. -le Premier From davids@imsa.edu Mon Aug 26 10:26:09 2002 Received: from mail.imsa.edu (n1x6.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g7QEQ97a019796 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 10:26:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) id EC3216916F; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 09:26:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: dwarf@imsa.edu Received: from 1x5.imsa.edu (1x5.imsa.edu [143.195.1.5]) by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E90876913A for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 09:26:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by 1x5.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7QEQ9X28243 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 09:26:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: 1x5.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 09:26:09 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Spring 1908, Germany to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 2791 Lines: 55 > I've been thinking about this. Yes, I could take Ion next season, but > that would involve no forward movement elsewhere in my line ; and he > could still take it back in the fall, putting me back exactly where I am > now. A position is only advantageous if you can hold it. > > As such, I was thinking of mostly ignoring Ionian this year (maybe > sending one unit in), with a view to improving my position elsewhere. > I'm sure the Swiss will get their panties in a bunch over what a moron > I'm being, but I really feel that they've had quite enough influence on > this game already, don't you think? I thought about it, and if I were you I'd take Ion this year. There are a couple good reasons, and one that makes it silly not to. The few good reasons all revolve around the fact that Turkey is inscrutable, and he may not even try to position himself around the Ion. So it might be yours for the keeping. Plus, if WesMed moves to Tun (or Tyn if you take Ion from there), Ion will have plenty of support. The one crowning reason to take the Ion is that, even should Turkey boot you next year, your can do a "forward retreat". Turkey would be very hard pressed to cover both the Adriatic and Albania from your retreat. Once you have a fleet through, you're golden. A fleet in either Albania or the Adriatic will pretty much ensure that you'll take Tri the next season. > I would be surprised if Russia or Turkey tries for Bohemia, because in > both cases it would stretch their line rather thin (drastically so for > Russia). I had thought of moving there myself, just as you suggest, to > improve my position vis-a-vis the Austrian centers. It is, in fact, the > only place I could possibly move forward this season, except for Ion > which I've discussed above. > > For yourself, if Russia tries anything funny, you have Moscow easily, > and he should know that. In fact, on the assumption that he will be > busy defending Moscow, you should be able to take Galicia and from there > the rest of the dying Czar's territory. Of course, if he doesn't defend > Moscow with all his might, that wouldn't be the best move. C'est la > guerre. Yeah, it's hard to judge. There's a lot of second guessing going on. How do you feel about doing this: Tyr - Boh Ven - Tyr Mun S Ven - Tyr (just in case Turkey tries anything funny) Rom - Ven Tus S Rom - Ven (just in case Turkey tries anything funny) Let me know. > I am so sorry for the mix-up there. I failed to consult my copies of > our diplomatic communiques before sending out my construction orders, > and I misremembered the conclusion we had reached. In any case (now > having consulted them), I still intend to move that unit out by way of > Gascony, of course. Good to know. From dwarf@imsa.edu Mon Aug 26 10:40:28 2002 Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 10:40:28 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Spring 1908, France to Germany Message-ID: <20020826144028.GR3671@cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 872 Lines: 21 > The one crowning reason to take the Ion is that, even should Turkey boot > you next year, your can do a "forward retreat". Turkey would be very hard > pressed to cover both the Adriatic and Albania from your retreat. Once > you have a fleet through, you're golden. A fleet in either Albania or the > Adriatic will pretty much ensure that you'll take Tri the next season. This is an excellent point. > Yeah, it's hard to judge. There's a lot of second guessing going on. How > do you feel about doing this: > Tyr - Boh > Ven - Tyr > Mun S Ven - Tyr (just in case Turkey tries anything funny) > Rom - Ven > Tus S Rom - Ven (just in case Turkey tries anything funny) > Let me know. This is, in fact, exactly what I was thinking, right down to the support from Tuscany "just in case Turkey tries anything funny." -le Premier From dpb Mon Aug 26 09:35:08 2002 Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 09:35:08 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Spring 1908, France moves Message-ID: <20020826133508.GO3671@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 297 Lines: 18 A Tyr -> Boh A Ven -> Tyr A Tus -> Ven A Rom S A Tus -> Ven F Nap -> Apu F Tyn -> Nap F Mar -> GoL F Tun -> Ion F WMed -> Tun A Par -> Gas A NAf H -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. From davids@imsa.edu Mon Aug 26 14:11:12 2002 Received: from mail.imsa.edu (n1x6.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g7QIBA7a025056 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 14:11:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 1x5.imsa.edu (1x5.imsa.edu [143.195.1.5]) by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A676969128 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 13:11:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by 1x5.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7QIBAL04708 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 13:11:10 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: 1x5.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 13:11:10 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Re: Spring 1908, France moves In-Reply-To: <20020826133508.GO3671@cs.brown.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 295 Lines: 24 Are these 'FINAL'? No big deal if they're not, just wondering. D On Mon, 26 Aug 2002, Don Blaheta wrote: > A Tyr -> Boh > A Ven -> Tyr > A Tus -> Ven > A Rom S A Tus -> Ven > > F Nap -> Apu > F Tyn -> Nap > F Mar -> GoL > F Tun -> Ion > F WMed -> Tun > > A Par -> Gas > > A NAf H > > From dpb@cs.brown.edu Mon Aug 26 14:23:20 2002 Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 14:23:20 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Re: Spring 1908, France moves Message-ID: <20020826182320.GX3671@cs.brown.edu> References: <20020826133508.GO3671@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 403 Lines: 10 Quoth David Singleton: > Are these 'FINAL'? No big deal if they're not, just wondering. Definitely not yet, I'm still thinking about the five fleets. -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- "Letting strings denote degrees of nobility may be inadvisable. It does not prevent spurious degrees like `butcher' and `madman'." --_ML for the working programmer_ From dpb Tue Aug 27 14:09:12 2002 Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 14:09:12 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Spring 1908, France moves UPDATED Message-ID: <20020827180912.GD3671@cs.brown.edu> References: <20020826133508.GO3671@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020826133508.GO3671@cs.brown.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 478 Lines: 21 Some changes in the Mediterranean; changes marked with ***. These moves are final (again, unless someone sends last-minute communication). A Tyr -> Boh A Ven -> Tyr A Tus -> Ven A Rom S A Tus -> Ven F Mar -> GoL F Tun -> Ion F WMed H *** F Nap S F Tun -> Ion *** F Tyn S F Tun -> Ion *** A Par -> Gas A NAf -> Tun *** -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- The sooner you fall behind, the more time you'll have to catch up. From dpb Wed Aug 28 06:17:27 2002 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 06:17:27 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Fall 1908, France orders Message-ID: <20020828101727.GA697@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 405 Lines: 21 Lovely. Time to drag out the backup plan. Silly me, thought I'd have another season before this happened. A Gas -> Paris F WMed -> MAt A Rom -> Mar F GoL C A Rom -> Mar F Tyn C A Rom -> Mar A Tun -> NAf A Boh -> Vie A Tyr -> Tri A Ven S A Tyr -> Tri F Ion S F Nap F Nap S F Ion -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- Donald Duck's middle name is Fauntleroy. From dpb Wed Aug 28 06:21:01 2002 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 06:21:01 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Fall 1908, France to Russia Message-ID: <20020828102101.GB697@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 257 Lines: 7 Hi. I'll support you into Vienna. Let me know if you're interested. Alternatively, if you've decided to just melt down, I'd be grateful if you'd melt down in the general direction of Budapest. Best of luck with whatever you decide to try. -le Premier From davids@imsa.edu Wed Aug 28 19:41:32 2002 Received: from mail.imsa.edu (n1x6.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g7SNfV7a028668 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 19:41:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) id D7CE769114; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 18:41:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: dwarf@imsa.edu Received: from 1x5.imsa.edu (1x5.imsa.edu [143.195.1.5]) by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBDF6690F5 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 18:41:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by 1x5.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7SNfT220258 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 18:41:29 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: 1x5.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 18:41:29 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Fall 1908, Russia to the World Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Content-Length: 1187 Lines: 29 Turkey, Turkey, Turkey... Stab me once, shame on you. Stab me twice, shame on me. The impressive thing, in my opinion, is that you haven't gotten any better at it - you still fail to see the big picture. Germany has 11 supply centers, and if you're on his side, he'll pick up Moscow this turn, along with Belgium, putting him at 13. Next year, he'll add Liverpool, Paris, and probably Sevastopol. After that, it's just a hop, skip and a jump to take Vienna and Budapest away from you. We all know you're a naive pawn -- a puppet, if you will, to the most diabolical political genius Europe has ever known: Kaiser Wilhelm I! You don't have the intelligence to run a continent by yourself, do you? You're Germany's lackey! The Ronny to his Nancy! Sonny to his Cher! Ringo to his rest of the Beatles! If you stay allied with Germany, I suspect you can look forward to the following message: Congratulations, you've given Germany 18 supply centers, and absolute control of the European continent. Thanks for playing. Ah, well, nothing to be done for it. Nichevo. Sincerely, Nicholas II, Tsar of Russia From davids@imsa.edu Wed Aug 28 12:18:13 2002 Received: from mail.imsa.edu (n1x6.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g7SGID7a018914 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 12:18:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) id CF46669124; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 11:18:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: dwarf@imsa.edu Received: from 1x5.imsa.edu (1x5.imsa.edu [143.195.1.5]) by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40E1690EB for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 11:18:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by 1x5.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7SGICh23252 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 11:18:12 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: 1x5.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 11:18:12 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Fall 1908, Russia to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 213 Lines: 4 I'm not really in the business of melting down, which is to say that I'll fight to the (bitter and fast-approaching) end - so if you want to orchestrate a push into Turkey, or a strike to hurt Germany, I'm game. From dwarf@imsa.edu Thu Aug 29 10:51:44 2002 Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 10:51:44 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Fall 1908, France to Russia Message-ID: <20020829145144.GE10273@cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 937 Lines: 17 > I'm not really in the business of melting down, which is to say that I'll > fight to the (bitter and fast-approaching) end - so if you want to > orchestrate a push into Turkey, or a strike to hurt Germany, I'm game. I don't think a strike into Germany's heartland would be very productive, but I think we definitely have a shot at the Austrian centers. I am at the moment intending to take Trieste and annoy Vienna. I can give you support into Vienna, but unfortunately that's about all I can help you into right now. Only one of the two is likely to succeed - Budapest will support one of them - but one of the two definitely will. I agree with your analysis, by the way. To be honest, I was expecting the German stab to come soon, but for some reason I thought he'd wait until the Fall. At this point it will be difficult to do anything other than make Germany work for the win ; I don't think we can prevent it. -le Premier From davids@imsa.edu Thu Aug 29 11:10:08 2002 Received: from mail.imsa.edu (n1x6.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g7TFA87a015146 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 11:10:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) id 2B53F69147; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 10:10:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: dwarf@imsa.edu Received: from 1x5.imsa.edu (1x5.imsa.edu [143.195.1.5]) by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F2906913D for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 10:10:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by 1x5.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7TFA7602511 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 10:10:07 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: 1x5.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 10:10:07 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Fall 1908, Russia to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 1218 Lines: 24 Frankly, I agree - I don't think we can really prevent it - but if there's any way we can, it definitely involves getting Turkey back on board, and I figure shaming him is as good a way as any to try it. On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, David Singleton wrote: > > I'm not really in the business of melting down, which is to say that I'll > > fight to the (bitter and fast-approaching) end - so if you want to > > orchestrate a push into Turkey, or a strike to hurt Germany, I'm game. > > I don't think a strike into Germany's heartland would be very > productive, but I think we definitely have a shot at the Austrian > centers. I am at the moment intending to take Trieste and annoy Vienna. > I can give you support into Vienna, but unfortunately that's about all I > can help you into right now. Only one of the two is likely to succeed - > Budapest will support one of them - but one of the two definitely will. > > I agree with your analysis, by the way. To be honest, I was expecting > the German stab to come soon, but for some reason I thought he'd wait > until the Fall. At this point it will be difficult to do anything other > than make Germany work for the win ; I don't think we can prevent it. > > -le Premier From dwarf@imsa.edu Thu Aug 29 13:09:18 2002 Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 13:09:18 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Fall 1908, France to Russia Message-ID: <20020829170918.GC11528@cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 252 Lines: 5 > Frankly, I agree - I don't think we can really prevent it - but if there's > any way we can, it definitely involves getting Turkey back on board, and I > figure shaming him is as good a way as any to try it. Great. Will you move into Vienna then ? From davids@imsa.edu Thu Aug 29 15:08:45 2002 Received: from mail.imsa.edu (n1x6.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g7TJ8i7a021951 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 15:08:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) id 6CCF46916B; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:08:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: dwarf@imsa.edu Received: from 1x5.imsa.edu (1x5.imsa.edu [143.195.1.5]) by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DDD869142 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:08:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by 1x5.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7TJ8iA19170 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:08:44 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: 1x5.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:08:44 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Fall 1908, Russia to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 327 Lines: 12 Sure, why not? On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, David Singleton wrote: > > Frankly, I agree - I don't think we can really prevent it - but if there's > > any way we can, it definitely involves getting Turkey back on board, and I > > figure shaming him is as good a way as any to try it. > > Great. Will you move into Vienna then ? > > From dwarf@imsa.edu Thu Aug 29 15:55:11 2002 Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 15:55:11 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Fall 1908, France orders UPDATE Message-ID: <20020829195511.GA12605@cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 526 Lines: 25 I change one order: A Boh S A Gal -> Vie That makes all the orders as follows: A Gas -> Paris F WMed -> MAt A Rom -> Mar F GoL C A Rom -> Mar F Tyn C A Rom -> Mar A Tun -> NAf A Boh S A Gal -> Vie *** A Tyr -> Tri A Ven S A Tyr -> Tri F Ion S F Nap F Nap S F Ion This is final unless someone sends me further communication. -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- A language that doesn't have everything is actually easier to program in than some that do. --Dennis M. Ritchie From dpb Sat Aug 31 16:07:17 2002 Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 16:07:17 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Fall 1908, France retreats Message-ID: <20020831200717.GA10362@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 312 Lines: 7 The Ionian fleet will retreat to Tunis. Boy, this situation is miserable. Sorry for not getting this in sooner, my computer's power supply died and I couldn't send it from home. :) -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- "How do I love thee? My accumulator overflows." From davids@imsa.edu Wed Sep 18 11:35:49 2002 Received: from mail.imsa.edu (n1x6.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g8IFZnIT005296 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 11:35:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) id 28C2269170; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 10:35:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: dwarf@imsa.edu Received: from 1x5.imsa.edu (1x5.imsa.edu [143.195.1.5]) by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C8346915A for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 10:35:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by 1x5.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8IFZnb28144 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 10:35:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: 1x5.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 10:35:49 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: DIP DIP DIP Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Content-Length: 185 Lines: 6 Alright folks, it's time to show the folks that it IS possible to finish an online PBEM game of diplomacy. Orders for Spring 1909 are due THIS FRIDAY, Sept 20., 10pm Eastern time. D From dpb Thu Sep 19 18:43:53 2002 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 18:43:53 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Spring 1909, France to Russia Message-ID: <20020919224353.GC11549@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 390 Lines: 16 We should decide what to try in Austria. I would suggest the following: France: A Boh -> Vie A Tri S A Gal -> Bud Russia: A Gal -> Bud A Ukr -> Rum Then in the fall, we can work on Vienna. Alternatively, I could support you into Vienna now, and try for Budapest later. I think the above way gives us better chances of holding our supply centers, though I'm not positive. -le Premier From dpb Thu Sep 19 18:47:07 2002 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 18:47:07 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Spring 1909, France moves Message-ID: <20020919224707.GD11549@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 360 Lines: 19 F MAt S A Gas -> Bre A Gas -> Bre A Mar -> Bur F GoL -> WMed A NAf S F Tun F Tyn -> Ion F Nap S F Tyn -> Ion F Tun S F Tyn -> Ion A Ven S A Tri A Tri S A Gal -> Bud A Boh -> Vie -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- Never put off until tomorrow what you can do today. There might be a law against it by that time. From davids@imsa.edu Fri Sep 20 19:46:02 2002 Received: from mail.imsa.edu (n1x6.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g8KNjsIT018918 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 19:45:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) id 73A2E6911B; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 18:45:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: dwarf@imsa.edu Received: from 1x5.imsa.edu (1x5.imsa.edu [143.195.1.5]) by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A09690FE for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 18:45:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by 1x5.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8KNjp319510 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 18:45:51 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: 1x5.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 18:45:51 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Spring 1909, Russia to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Content-Length: 510 Lines: 23 Premier, Your suggested orders make sense to me. Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. > We should decide what to try in Austria. I would suggest the following: > > France: > A Boh -> Vie > A Tri S A Gal -> Bud > > Russia: > A Gal -> Bud > A Ukr -> Rum > > Then in the fall, we can work on Vienna. Alternatively, I could support > you into Vienna now, and try for Budapest later. I think the above way > gives us better chances of holding our supply centers, though I'm not > positive. > > -le Premier From dpb Fri Sep 20 22:38:57 2002 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 22:38:57 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Fall 1909, France to Turkey Message-ID: <20020921023857.GB17703@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 1351 Lines: 29 Congratulations. My eastern front is now in complete disarray, and my homeland is being invaded. I am, of course, not pleased about either one, but in the grand scheme of things, I am more unhappy with Germany. Partially because of the homeland thing, but mostly because he is so close to winning. He already has 14 centers, and (depending on how he moves) he could have as many as 16 at the end of this season. In case you aren't aware, once he achieves a majority of the board - 18 centers - he just wins. You get nothing. As such, I would like to propose a truce. How silly, you think, since you're already winning. That's as may be, but if I back out of certain places voluntarily that will free up some of your units to swing north and take some centers away from Germany. In particular, I would immediately cede Trieste, Naples, and Rome to you without contest. My unit in Bohemia will be disbanded at the end of the season, of course. In return, I hope that you will turn your now-considerable might northward, to help prevent the Kaiser from overrunning the continent. In the interest of halting his expansion, I also suggest that you support Russia into Sevastopol, or at least don't support Germany in, but I leave to you the details. (If you can get Germany to support /you/ into Sevastopol, so much the better.) -le Premier From davids@imsa.edu Tue Sep 24 18:57:12 2002 Received: from mail.imsa.edu (n1x6.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g8OMvCWd028176 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 18:57:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) id 50DF969111; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 17:57:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: dwarf@imsa.edu Received: from 1x5.imsa.edu (1x5.imsa.edu [143.195.1.5]) by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4678769104 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 17:57:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by 1x5.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8OMvBp22202 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 17:57:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: 1x5.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 17:57:11 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: DIP Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 43 Lines: 5 Reminder that orders are due tonight. D From dwarf@imsa.edu Tue Sep 24 21:30:42 2002 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 21:30:42 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: David Singleton Subject: Re: DIP Message-ID: <20020925013042.GA12253@cs.brown.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 351 Lines: 10 Quoth David Singleton: > Reminder that orders are due tonight. Shit! Turkey never responded. Bastard. Working on a set of orders right now. -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- We will have solar energy as soon as the utility companies solve one technical problem---how to run a sunbeam through a meter. From davids@imsa.edu Tue Sep 24 21:34:21 2002 Received: from mail.imsa.edu (n1x6.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g8P1YKWd004517 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 21:34:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) id 799E76912A; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 20:34:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: dwarf@imsa.edu Received: from 1x5.imsa.edu (1x5.imsa.edu [143.195.1.5]) by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E3F069112 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 20:34:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by 1x5.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8P1YKq00415 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 20:34:20 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: 1x5.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 20:34:20 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Re: DIP In-Reply-To: <20020925013042.GA12253@cs.brown.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Content-Length: 403 Lines: 17 On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Don Blaheta wrote: > Quoth David Singleton: > > Reminder that orders are due tonight. > > Shit! Turkey never responded. Bastard. Working on a set of orders > right now. > I'm going to let you in on a little secret. Turkey never fucking responds. Turkey is lucky to turn in fucking orders. Turkey is a dillweed. Turkey will never be allowed in a dip game of mine again. D From dpb Tue Sep 24 21:44:27 2002 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 21:44:27 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Fall 1909, France moves Message-ID: <20020925014427.GB12253@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 724 Lines: 28 A Bre -> Par A Bur -> Mar A NAf -> Spa F WMed C A NAf -> Spa F Por S A NAf -> Spa F Tun -> NAf F Tyn -> Tun F Nap -> Tyn A Boh -> Mun A Tri -> Tyr A Ven S A Tri -> Tyr We'll see how that goes. I have a remote chance of being able to mount a r=E9sistance and take back the homeland, but it seems unlikely. On the other hand, I'm dying to see the cast of characters, so it's all good. By the way, I was right that Germany will instantly win when he controls 18 SCs, right? --=20 -=3D-Don Blaheta-=3D-=3D-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=3D-=3D--=3D- Sur George Bush fils: =AB C'est tr=E8s logiquement que le Texas, habitu=E9 aux =E9checs, a choisi= un perdant comme gouverneur. =BB --Daniel Lazare From davids@imsa.edu Tue Sep 24 21:52:27 2002 Received: from mail.imsa.edu (n1x6.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g8P1qRWd004877 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 21:52:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 1x5.imsa.edu (1x5.imsa.edu [143.195.1.5]) by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFA84691BD for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 20:52:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by 1x5.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8P1qQB09834 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 20:52:26 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: 1x5.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 20:52:26 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Re: Fall 1909, France moves In-Reply-To: <20020925014427.GB12253@cs.brown.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Content-Length: 380 Lines: 14 > By the way, I was right that Germany will instantly win when he controls > 18 SCs, right? >From the rulebook: "As soon as one Great Power controls 18 supply centers, it is considered to have gained control of Europe. The player representing that Great Power is the winner." Of course, you have to have control of a SC after the Fall movement to have a SC controlled. D From dpb Tue Sep 24 22:36:53 2002 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 22:36:53 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Winter 1909, France disbands Message-ID: <20020925023653.GB12497@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 319 Lines: 9 I can't believe what a moron Turkey is. I can't believe Russia still holds Sevastopol. I disband the fleets in Tyn and Nap, and the armies in Boh and NAf. -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- Why do they lock gas station bathrooms? Are they afraid someone will clean them? From dpb Thu Sep 26 10:39:38 2002 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 10:39:38 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Spring 1909, France moves Message-ID: <20020926143938.GY17703@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 655 Lines: 20 What do you think are the odds that Turkey refuses to concede, but continues to attack me anyway? *sigh* A Tyr -> Pie A Ven S A Tyr -> Pie A Par -> Bre A Mar -> Gas F WMed -> Spa (sc) F Por S F WMed -> Spa (sc) F Tun -> NAf -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- "Nobody has a sense of history anymore. The modern fan could tell you Barry Bonds' on-base percentage with two outs and runners in scoring position during night games on the road, but he's never even heard of the old St. Louis Browns shortstop Walter "Shitty Batter" Dugan. They called him that because he was a real shitty batter." --Joe Shidle From dpb Thu Sep 26 10:35:38 2002 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 10:35:38 -0400 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Spring 1909, France to Turkey Message-ID: <20020926143538.GX17703@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 428 Lines: 12 Naples is empty, and I am about to move out of Tunis and possibly Venice. If you occupy these centers, I will not have enough troops to hold off Germany, and YOU WILL LOSE. Do you understand? If you do, we can talk about how we can move northward in concert to stave off Germany. If you do not, say so - if you plan to continue to attack me instead of Germany, let us all know and we can just concede the game. -le Premier From dpb Mon Oct 28 14:42:44 2002 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:42:44 -0500 From: Don Blaheta To: davids@imsa.edu Subject: Dip page Message-ID: <20021028194244.GD953@cs.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Status: RO Content-Length: 414 Lines: 9 Could you make a gzipped tarball (or ftm a pkzipp archive) of all the files, and post it? That'd be way easier than clicking all thirty or so links to grab everything. :) -- -=-Don Blaheta-=-=-dpb@cs.brown.edu-=-=--=- As I've gained more experience with Perl it strikes me that it resembles Lisp in many ways, albeit Lisp as channeled by an awk script on acid. --Tim Moore From davids@imsa.edu Thu Aug 22 13:23:55 2002 Received: from mail.imsa.edu (n1x6.imsa.edu [143.195.1.6]) by cs.brown.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g7MHNtQi015124 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:23:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) id E1B936918C; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 12:23:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: dwarf@imsa.edu Received: from 1x5.imsa.edu (1x5.imsa.edu [143.195.1.5]) by mail.imsa.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE506918B for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 12:23:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (davids@localhost) by 1x5.imsa.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7MHNsX02239 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 12:23:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: 1x5.imsa.edu: davids owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 12:23:54 -0500 (CDT) From: David Singleton To: Don Blaheta Subject: Fall 1907, Germany to France Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Content-Length: 2551 Lines: 55 > Well, my second build was going to be an army, and I *was* thinking of > putting it in Brest, so as to be less threatening to you ! If it makes > you feel more comfortable I'll put it in Paris ; in terms of getting it > to the front line, it'll go through Gascony either way. Frankly (ha), > I'm baffled and curious as to why an army in Brest would be more > threatening to you than one in Paris.... You're right! My only concern was with a fleet being built in Brest. You're also right in saying that an army in Brest would be preferable (in some vague, negligible way) to an army in Paris. That's cool. I will need to see how this season plays out before I decide whether or not to build another fleet. My relevant moves this season are going to be: A Fin - StP F Bar S Fin - StP F Bot - Swe A Den S F Bot - Swe F Skag - Nwy F Pru - Lvn (cutting possible support to StP) The moves will be as above because: I must invade StP with either A Fin or F Bot, and I must support that move with F Bar. Any other move will leave an opening for Russia to cut my support. I decided that it was imperative that I move A Fin - StP because I need the army there to help take Moscow next year. This decision leaves Norway open this season. The only remaining way to block Swe-Nwy is to move Skag-Nwy. That leaves Den and Bot to take Sweden. I decided to move Bot-Swe so that the fleet can, from Swe, persue the Russian fleet no matter where it retreats. If it retreats to Skag, I can bring the Bar fleet around to destroy it. I had initially thought that, if he retreats to Bal, I would need another fleet to persue him, but I might be able to get away with shuffling fleets around to Fin and Swe in the spring of next year, then slowly pushing down until I get back to Bal and destroy the fleet. The problem with the above is that it ties up armies along the coast, defending centers in Den, Kiel and Ber. Another fleet would free up these armies to move East, and I could destroy Russia's fleet easily. Of course, then I'd be left with four fleets and no coasts to fight on. Pretty lame. Hopefully Russia will do the sensible thing and leave himself with four armies to defend his homeland. The last time I took Swe from him, he retreated East rather than West. That was a defensive move, geared towards keeping me out of StP. If that playing style continues, he should disband the fleet because his best defense, assuming only four centers remain, is to keep four armies in the field.